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01-09-2016 , 10:08 PM
thanks guys. my list looks like the one posted except

-1x harrison
-1x shadow madness
-2x injured blademaster
-1x light of the naruu

+1x flash heal
+1x cabal shadow priest
+1x velen's chosen
+1x sludge belcher
+1x thoughtsteal
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01-10-2016 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CitizenInsane
thanks guys. my list looks like the one posted except

-1x harrison
-1x shadow madness
-2x injured blademaster
-1x light of the naruu

+1x flash heal
+1x cabal shadow priest
+1x velen's chosen
+1x sludge belcher
+1x thoughtsteal
think these are very reasonable changes. I do however think light of the naaru is better than flash heal, as long as decks where you need the extra burst, such as renolock, aren't very popular.

I usually find the best way to get to legend quickly/climb in general is to just accept that your deck is a big underdog against certain decks (hopefully the less popular ones!) and just try to make it as good as possible against the rest.

I think cutting blademasters for 1 extra velens and one belcher is a fine change that would improve your matchup against secret paladin. I'm not a fan of thoughtsteal right now because it improves matchups where you either already do fine in control warrior f.e. or matchups where you're still a big underdog in (slow warlock decks). It's a card that sacrifices tempo for card advantage but I rarely found myself losing because I was running out of cards. You should run it when you face a lot of slow warlock decks, priests and control warriors. Knowing the flex spots in your deck is important and just adjust accordingly to the meta you face.
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01-10-2016 , 12:40 AM
Yeah I know I should really drop thoughtsteal. It's just my favorite card in the game. It does help in control matchups but there are really better options.

Can you talk about your tech decisions? Most notably your inclusion of shadow madness, which is a card I don't see used/talked about often.

I find light of the naruu to be almost a "win more" condition. In that if you have control of the board the lightwarden is really nice but trivial if you don't. I like the little extra added heal/burst from flash heal but it's probably close.
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01-10-2016 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CitizenInsane
Yeah I know I should really drop thoughtsteal. It's just my favorite card in the game. It does help in control matchups but there are really better options.

Can you talk about your tech decisions? Most notably your inclusion of shadow madness, which is a card I don't see used/talked about often.

I find light of the naruu to be almost a "win more" condition. In that if you have control of the board the lightwarden is really nice but trivial if you don't. I like the little extra added heal/burst from flash heal but it's probably close.
harrison seems like an auto include considering how many secret paladins/patrons/rogues I faced.
shadow madness, I have a golden one so I had to use it. on a more serious note, I was also facing a bunch of egg druids (raptor being a good target there), it's fine vs patrons (trade the 2 full health ones into each other after they went patron, inner rage, deathbite hit) for when you didn't draw your light bomb. trading knife juggler into a 1x buffed secret keeper etc.
Probably one of the weaker/less consistant cards though and not necessary by any means.

If you face a lot of aggro and run double velens, tournament medic is a fine addition. I posted a decklist a while back that ran double tournament medic in priest and someone even responded saying it was a troll/bad deck despite me having a good winrate at legend with it. that deck was very difficult to play though and the disparity in expected winrates between a good/bad player using it was huge....fast forward a bit and you find one in fibonacci's rank 1 list, despite it being worse in warrior. priest has great synergy with it. it doesn't care about light bomb, provides a really good body to put a velens on/heal with the cleric to cycle. sadly face hunter is kinda out of the meta right now because that card alone pretty much made the face hunter matchup unlosable.

I disagree with light of the naaru being a win more card and also think that term is a bit overused. unless you die the following turn, it's better to heal your face for 3 and have a 1/2 body than healing your face for 5. same goes for the synergy with deathlords. healing up a wounded deathlord for 3 and putting a 1/2 behind it that then threatens to grow really quickly is better than healing it for 5 on average.
secret paladin doesn't have too many 5 hp minions where the auchenai+flesh heal combo matters a lot.
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01-10-2016 , 03:03 AM
Okay. Right now I'm facing mosty mages, warlocks, and paladins fwiw.

When we run harrison are we prioritizing card draw or weapon destruction? Like are we fine killing the muster weapon and drawing 3-4 or are we looking to pick off a truesilver? (ideally ashbringer but if we're entombing tirion we don't always get the opportunity)
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01-10-2016 , 09:35 AM
what is your opinion regarding belchers in a control priest deck? Most of the netdecks seem to include them, you did not. Is that because of the somewhat less aggro infested legendary ranks meta?
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01-10-2016 , 10:33 AM
belchers are definitely a fine addition. I might try cutting the blademasters for 1 more velens+1 belcher if I play again this month. I don't really know what the current meta looks like, I often get bored of HS after getting legend and haven't played since I got there.
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01-10-2016 , 11:15 AM
...thank you for your input! I can only speak for the meta around rank 10, but there you will find a lot of aggro/tempo decks beside the omnipresent paladin decks.
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01-10-2016 , 10:48 PM
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thank you for your input!
+1 thanks for your posts forthelulz
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01-14-2016 , 03:05 AM
Anyone interested in sharing some more priest lists? Here's what I'm working with so far



I just cut a cabal for sylvanas simply because I find sylvanas to be a bigger threat. Too often I find myself stealing an irrelevant minion with cabal (unless you can pick up shielded minibot/imp gang boss) but I'm not sure this happens enough for cabal to be an auto include. This also might seem like a small deal but I think the 5 attack on Sylvanas compared to the 4 attack on cabal is critical. It allows you to trade with other mid game threats such as loatheb.

I also recently dropped a zombie chow to put the cabal back in. I'm iffy on this. Zombie chow is a fantastic early draw but can be a liability late unless you are able to synergize with auchenia. In my experience control priest matchups aren't won solely by taking early board control (although that is vital to building momentum into your win condition) so I'm fine with taking one out for now. I'll let you guys know how it works for me if anyone is interested.

I also played around with a holy champion which I simply don't like. It's a bgh target in a deck that otherwise has none and it's competing with the auchenai. Around turns 6-8 I want to be getting max value out of auchenai, not pumping up a threat that could be easily removed.

All thoughts are welcome
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01-14-2016 , 05:26 AM
This is my current list:



Ours are pretty similar. I'm not a fan of thoughtsteal at the moment because it's a dead card vs fast decks. Vs slow decks I really believe entomb can carry the day. So you're left with a card that is disgustingly good in the mirror, but other than that it can maybe fish you out of a jam but most of the time is slow and you'd rather just develop a 3 drop. (Cultist, deathlord, blademaster, acolyte... all better)

I am not running Velens for the simple reason I feel like it's a greedy card that requires you to have a board to get full value. Sometimes I alternate 1 in but would pretty much never run 2. (Unless it was a Jenny deck or whatever) If I was running more spells maybe I'd consider doubling up as well but with just 1 nova it feels off.

As far as the cards I'm using, the early board really is so vital I don't think (unless the meta slows down, and this is a statement uttered like every month that is not the first few days of an expansion!!!!) I'd cut a chow. It gives board dominance, a northshire target, staves off a ton of damage, etc. It almost is never a race where the 5 heal matters, and because of later game Auchenai, it really is never dead.

I like a holy champion. I've run just 2 4 drops for a while and I always feel a little iffy about it. The 3rd 4 really does smooth curve, although with the Curators you can always discover a yeti or shredder. I understand the point about BGH but it's not an immediate BGH target, and it does double as a win condition. Fact that it scales to a 6 mana 5/5 (not great, but good enough to trade into emperor or slyvanas or belcher etc) makes me happy.
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01-14-2016 , 05:27 AM
also, not running cabals at the moment. who knows.
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01-14-2016 , 06:26 AM
I love love love running double velens. There's nothing more satisfying then watching your opponent burn through a 4/12 deathlord with 3-4 cards (or more) and then have them be rewarded with a like a mad scientist for their troubles. But you are absolutely correct you need to establish a board in order for it to have impact.
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01-14-2016 , 01:07 PM
I have been having a lot of fun and success with this Dragon Priest build.



The last card in the deck is Nefarian.

Brann Bronzebeard, Museum Curator, and Entomb have really helped extend the reach of the deck. Dragon Priest was decent enough before League of Explorers, but the addition of those cards gave it just what it needed to become versatile enough to match up well against a wide variety of competition. Brann's best combo is with Curator. But getting the extra attack on your Wyrmrest Agent or Twilight Guardians is certainly welcome. He also goes well with Azure Drake. Blackwing Corruptor becomes a Fireball. It's unlikely to get him off with Nefarian but I have done it once and it was extremely powerful.

Starting with Twilight Whelp is important. If you have one of those in your starting hand, I would mulligan everything else to look for a dragon. The exception is if you get a Wyrmrest Agent - I would play that on 2 and save the Whelp for later.

The deck is very strong against aggro if you can get your Whelps and taunts out early. With the high health of your minions, they will have a tough time winning the value game if they're trying for board control i.e. Zoo. Against Hunter, Wyrmrest Agent is game winning. Their best shot is to hit it with a Juggle and sac a Knife Juggler in to it. Aside from that they'll just never get through to you. Draw an Abomination form Curator and you'll be clearing a lot of their board.

Against control, Curator and Entomb are the big winners. Throw down a Brann and Curator and suddenly you've got the late game to contend with these guys. Some nice pulls have been Chillmaw, Carine, Sylvanas, Toshley, Sludge Belcher, Piloted Sky Golem to name a few. If you get two of those, plus Entomb their own Sylvanas they just have too tough of a time out-threatening you.

You could certainly play around with spots like Thoughtsteal, Piloted Shredder, or maybe Dark Cultist. I was running 1 Sludge Belcher but swapped it out for a Loatheb since you've got enough taunt int he deck and if you're waiting for Belcher to stop aggro then you've probably already lost anyway.
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01-14-2016 , 03:18 PM
Great write up aceium I'd like to try out dragon priest sometime soon
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01-14-2016 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CitizenInsane
Anyone interested in sharing some more priest lists?
decks i am using atm (priest is def. my main class ;-):

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01-15-2016 , 04:58 PM
what are your thoughts on 2 flash heals bitmonk?
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01-16-2016 , 08:27 AM
...you must decide which spell you prefer, either FH or Light of the naaru.
I prefer to include two of this type, in order to have some cheap spells to activate the Pyromancer. I also like to play consistent decks, so whenever possible i include two.

Wich one to take is pretty close.... FH is a bit more controlish, where as LoN gives you more tempo.
Personally i prefer FH. T5 with auchi is huge. You can kill belchers, shieldmaidens, Emperors or loatheb without sacrificing one of your early game minions (this kind of compensates the advantage of LoN imo). You can even kill Dr. Boom on t7 with this combo + heropower.
Against aggro matchups i just use it to heal face.

One thing i like about LoN is the synergy with Blademasters.
You can also run one of each type. Maybe i should try this in the Early Control List that runs two IBMs....
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01-23-2016 , 03:07 AM
So is the northshire cleric supposed to be a member of the cabal? (Not even sure what the cabal is)



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01-23-2016 , 07:12 AM
i dunno, but i could swear they were in a porn
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01-23-2016 , 10:01 AM
30 wins away from golden. Almost have golden heals!
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01-23-2016 , 07:22 PM
Its not as great as people make it out to be
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01-24-2016 , 12:28 PM
why is excavated evil not used?
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01-24-2016 , 12:45 PM
I played someone playing a shadow priest deck that had 2x excavated evil. I was playing midrange paladin and played the guy twice and went 1-1. I think it's not better than nova. +1 damage < +2 healing
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01-24-2016 , 01:08 PM
priest actually have good AOE with light bomb and holy nova--and many also run pyro shenanigans--I'd imagine that CP has the most AOE of any viable deck. EE is played but in certain decks like fatigue priest and some variations of CP.
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