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08-11-2015 , 12:26 PM
Update: Currently at Rank 4, 2 stars. Didn't play sunday and only played for a lil over an hour yesterday. Still only 6 total losses from rank 15 with the above deck. It's just such a well-balanced deck. I can't stress how good two silences can be in paladin. It pulls out wins that you wouldn't expect...just yesterday, I silenced a watcher (came from my shredder) for lethal. It also triggers lethal by silencing my own rag, late game, for lethal...owl stops hard-to-reach aggro targets like wakers, wryms, eggs....it's just so much better than two chows. I still think it's right to run one chow to sure up odds of drawing your early drops, but I'm never sad having an owl over a chow against a hunter, where chow is strong...silencing a scientist or creeper is still plenty good...and you're often not super sad to draw an owl late game, when you are sad drawing a chow.

I've also never had issue with card advantage in this deck...hero power, hero power, hero power...I can't say it enough. You'll complain less about card advantage and will usually find value with quartermaster. The times you do, say, play a minibot instead of a hero powering, are times where you're protecting yourself against AOE so you don't lose your complete board.

Believe it or not...i will play tempo QM when desperate...and you can win games this way. More times than not, you won't be in a position to have to do that, but I have won games in that situation.
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08-11-2015 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
No Rag.

My current list (skewed towards aggro early month meta)

2x Chow
2x Minibot
2x Equality
1x Ironbeak Owl
1x Juggler
2x Muster
2x Aldor
2x Consecration
2x Truesilver
2x Shredder
1x Defender of Argus
2x Vigil
1x Healbot
2x Sludge Belcher
1x Sky Golem
1x Sylvanas
Boom
Kel'Thuzad
Lay On Hands
Tirion
Btw, what kind of results are you having with this build. I can imagine Vigil, Equality, and Kelthuzad having some pretty sick synergies...
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08-11-2015 , 07:59 PM
Been pretty good so far. The card draw def helps quite a bit. Still struggling against Zoo and Patron Warrior cause I don't have the burst from QM, crush Hunters and do ok against Tempo Mage.
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08-11-2015 , 08:01 PM
Kel'Thuzad just doesn't come into play all that often but when he does he can win a game instantly.

The main reason for Vigil sometimes is to Muster on T3, trade in guys and be able to go Cheap Vigil + Aldor or hopefully Shredder on T4.

That's the weird part about Vigil is that it is an awesome card when I'm the control player and not so awesome when I'm the aggro player, which I have to be in some matchups.
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08-18-2015 , 11:03 PM


Took this to rank 2, 3 stars today from rank 3, no stars. Went 10-2 in that span...best matches are Zoo and tempo mage. GP warrior is a fairly easy matchup as you have tons of draw, enough burst, and board clear capabilities with double equality/consecration--> As long as I limit draw (save Truesilver for Acolytes and keep board clear to limit battle rages) and force whirlwind effects. Only weak matchup for me seems to be rogue (nothing new there) but overall this deck is great.
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08-19-2015 , 10:12 AM
Btw, I did run a list similar last season, zimmer. I tested your deck above, and I came to the same conclusion as you (lack of burst) and that's why my list runs one QM and a Ragnaros. There is so much draw that you often will get your burst pieces late as opposed to completely relying on curving perfectly without compromising your card advantage, which is what the above list doesn't rely on.
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08-19-2015 , 01:04 PM
I lack a lot of legendaries (only have boom really) so no rag, tirion, or sylvanas. Running something similar to you guys cept with 2x owls, KT, and 2x QMs. I'm really lacking in lategame threats besides KT and Boom. Are any of the other "free" legendaries that you get from the adventures worth running? I've been trying out Emperor just because it at least has value a lot of the time but PSG just seems like its usually a better play on t6 since Emperor dies 99% of the time on turn 7 whereas PSG at least is sticky.
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08-19-2015 , 01:16 PM
you can run loatheb, although i guess that makes the 5 spot clunky with 2x belcher 2x qm
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08-19-2015 , 01:23 PM
I actually really like Sky Golem (my list above runs Golem over Sylvanas actually).

I don't really like emperor in Pally, even with all the card draw...I would probably run Nefarian over Rag in the list I posted above...although rag is unique because of his guaranteed burst.

You can, essentially, run my list but subsitute Ragnaros for Nefarian and see how that plays. KT is cool and arguably good in my list above, but is often less threatening and doesn't give immediate value like Nefarian/Rag will
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08-19-2015 , 08:03 PM
How do you value QM vs BoK?

Feels like BoK is more versatile to me, but certainly possible value upside on QM.
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08-19-2015 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Berge20
How do you value QM vs BoK?

Feels like BoK is more versatile to me, but certainly possible value upside on QM.

IMO QM >> BoK. The 2/5 body on the QM adds a bunch of value in building a board, and the BoK is very easy to silence resulting in a big tempo swing because they can remove 4/4 from your board while adding an owl plus another 2-3 mana of value to their board.

I also like QM and have started running all my decks with 2. Running no QM it's very difficult to ever beat Zoo or Patron Warrior, which are massive in the current Meta I'm seeing.
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08-19-2015 , 09:46 PM
I think BoK makes sense if you're running pyros and acolytes, since there's additional synergy

but otherwise i dont like it
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08-19-2015 , 09:46 PM
also disagree 100% about not beating zoo or patron, i haven't run QMs for a while and zoo is one of the best matchups
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08-19-2015 , 09:54 PM
The patron matchup sucks, but QM isn't the answer to that matchup. In fact, BoK would be better for patron specifically
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08-19-2015 , 10:47 PM
If you're running 2 equalities and harrison the Patron matchup is totally fine. (I do)

I understand most pallys do not, which makes that matchup a lottttt worse.

In general it just sucks when they can use the hero power against you and cause you to make some pretty ****ty turns past turn 8 or so.

QM isn't even that good bc they still feast off the 2/5 body. if he was a 3/5 would legit be worlds different
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08-20-2015 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
If you're running 2 equalities and harrison the Patron matchup is totally fine. (I do)

I understand most pallys do not, which makes that matchup a lottttt worse.

In general it just sucks when they can use the hero power against you and cause you to make some pretty ****ty turns past turn 8 or so.

QM isn't even that good bc they still feast off the 2/5 body. if he was a 3/5 would legit be worlds different
I think running one QM is justified in a deck that runs decent amount of card draw. Solemn Vigil plus Equality synergizes so well that I run two of each and typically draw into a follow-up plan/answer.

This also increases my winrate against Patron Warrior. Often times, Paladin can struggle with the lack of follow up with Patron...because even if you Equality/Consecrate their Patron board... they oftentimes have a follow-up that is difficult to answer. That's what makes running double vigil/equality/consecrate so amazing here...I equalilty/consecrate their board, draw two cards (sometimes 4) and I now have a higher likelihood to draw into my follow up plan to answer their next wave of combo.

Solemn Vigil Paladin has a 72% winrate, for me, against patron warrior this season...which has been my highest winrate against patron and really solid considering I don't run ooze or Harrison. It's the only Midrange Paladin build, I've found, so far, that is strong against Patron but doesn't sacrifice against my other matchups.

Zoo is the easiest matchup, and well represented in this meta, followed by handlock because the deck runs a ridiculous amount of answers (double aldors/equality/consecrate and a BGH). Mage never has been a class that is difficult for me to combat against with MR Pally...even Freeze Mage is good in my deck since it runs a lot of healing/deathrattles/ and Ragnaros.

Last edited by KremePuff; 08-20-2015 at 12:09 PM.
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08-23-2015 , 02:27 AM
Hit Legend Today with Solemn Vigil Paladin! Played a few games in legend, and, for now, haha, I'm top 300 legend



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08-23-2015 , 02:44 AM
sick job man
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08-23-2015 , 08:46 AM
Well done Kreme! It's nice to see your efforts pay off.
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08-23-2015 , 12:27 PM
Thank you feed and Bobbo, it's a weight off my shoulders, that's for sure
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08-23-2015 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonfiction
I lack a lot of legendaries (only have boom really) so no rag, tirion, or sylvanas. Running something similar to you guys cept with 2x owls, KT, and 2x QMs. I'm really lacking in lategame threats besides KT and Boom. Are any of the other "free" legendaries that you get from the adventures worth running? I've been trying out Emperor just because it at least has value a lot of the time but PSG just seems like its usually a better play on t6 since Emperor dies 99% of the time on turn 7 whereas PSG at least is sticky.
Sounds like this might be a better deck for you. Kappa

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09-01-2015 , 06:06 AM
Need an opinion.

Would Jeeves be better than divine favor?

Divine favor is obviously better on mana at 3 than Jeeves at 4 and can draw more cards. But Jeeves has board presence and keep be buffed.
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09-01-2015 , 06:10 AM
Also lol at balance in HS atm

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09-01-2015 , 09:21 AM
No, Jeeves would not be better. The reason divine favor is so amazing in aggro pally because it allows you to play it and several of the cards you draw from it in late turns. The card quality in an aggro paladin deck is quite low, so you need to ensure that you get as much as possible on the board at once so slower decks can't deal with everything. Jeeves is just too slow and your opponent is going to kill it first approximately 99.9999% of the time.
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09-01-2015 , 01:57 PM
I get that. But the problem with divine favor I have been having is that I'm getting zero value out of it against rush decks.
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