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02-18-2015 , 06:46 PM
Figured since we are starting threads of classes, why not include what, in my opinion, is the best class to play post GvG.

I'm currently at rank 6 for this season, running a midrange Paladin, so I'll share with you my decklist as a tribute to my first post:

2X Zombie Chow
1X Equality
2X Knife Juggler
2X Shielded Minibot
1X Coghammer
2X Muster for Battle
2X Aldor Peacekeeper
2X Truesilver Champion
2X Consecration
2X Piloted Shredder
1X Antique Healbot
1X Bolvar Fordragon
1X Faceless Manipulator
1X Captain Greenskin
1X Quartermaster
2X Sludge Belcher
1X Sylvanas Windrunner
1X Dr. Boom
1X Lay on Hands
1X Ragnaros the Firelord
1X Tirion Fordring


I can answer any questions on this deck. Nothing too crazy here though. Although I think Bolvar is a great card.

Anyway, I love this class and I hope it continues to be a strong class going forward
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02-18-2015 , 07:14 PM
I've played a fair amount of Winstreakadin, but it seems to suffer nowadays with the prevalence of mech mage. I've been extremely dissatisfied with MCT, and generally feel the deck needs another card or two that costs less than 3. Chows seem like they should be great.
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02-18-2015 , 07:16 PM
This is my Paladin deck. I performed horribly with it in the 2+2 tourney, but have played it some more since and am doing better with it.

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02-18-2015 , 07:43 PM
I feel like the need for card draw is overrated with the typical midrange paladin. If your deck has the proper curve, I've noticed that I havent needed any card draw outside of Lay on Hands.

ddubois: I agree on MCT. It's often a dead card outside of being a 3/3. I hate reactive cards if I can help it...which is why i run no BGH, Silences, or MCT in my deck. I also only run one equality as that seems enough for the deck I run. TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO
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02-18-2015 , 08:25 PM
I seem to be the only paladin that is anti lay of hands. In the midrange pally, most games don't make it to turn 10. lay of hands is a dead card a lot. I cut it last month and haven't looked back.

MEb, it's a real bad time to run black knight. it will aid you in the mirror, but the druid match is already a good one. it performs very poorly vs every other deck in the meta right now - rogues dont run taunts, mech mages only have annoy o trons, and the shamans aren't even running feral spirits. cut the dude
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02-18-2015 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
I seem to be the only paladin that is anti lay of hands. In the midrange pally, most games don't make it to turn 10. lay of hands is a dead card a lot. I cut it last month and haven't looked back.

MEb, it's a real bad time to run black knight. it will aid you in the mirror, but the druid match is already a good one. it performs very poorly vs every other deck in the meta right now - rogues dont run taunts, mech mages only have annoy o trons, and the shamans aren't even running feral spirits. cut the dude
What are you running in it's place? Another 8 drop? another form of card draw/heal?
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02-18-2015 , 09:04 PM
more or less my list from last month that i used to hit legend:



cards not pictured are dr boom and tirion

i dont like bolvar. the 5 drops for paladin are insane, given QMs are a must, loatheb is SO GOOD right now, and i personally love greenskin/harrison. hell, sludges are great but i just cant fit them.

recently cut back from 2 arguses. the wrath makes my deck more my own i guess but the burst really matters. a lot of paladin decks use just 1 equality, so it does give me another board combo clear.
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02-18-2015 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KremePuff
What are you running in it's place? Another 8 drop? another form of card draw/heal?
comparing our lists, you just have a lot more healing than me. i suffer in the face hunter matchup but thats it. i was a big advocate of coghammers, but generally you want to play muster on 3 - and you can't reliably get the weapon proc on a minion from the 2->3, so it hurt its early game value. since i cut the heals i needed the truesilvers for at least some life gain.

i tried shredders a lot and i know they're great but the cult master is needed for my only card draw, and i think argus is actually better in paladin/shaman, for obvious reasons.

bolvar is too slow in a midrange deck.
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02-18-2015 , 09:29 PM
Decklist I was playing in the tourney was

2x Secretkeeper
2x Argent Squire
2x Noble Sacrifice
2x Avenge
2x Redemption
1x Repentance
1x Equality
2x Shielded Minibot
2x Knife Juggler
2x Mad Scientist
2x Blood Knight
2x Codlight Oracle
2x Divine Favor
1x Coghammer
1x Sword of Justice
1x Muster for Battle
1x Piloted Shredder
2x Consecrate
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02-18-2015 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
MEb, it's a real bad time to run black knight. it will aid you in the mirror, but the druid match is already a good one. it performs very poorly vs every other deck in the meta right now - rogues dont run taunts, mech mages only have annoy o trons, and the shamans aren't even running feral spirits. cut the dude
It may be a difference in levels but I'm still seeing lots of taunts and consider black knight a plus in any of the decks I'm running. It's a card capable of winning games at times.
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02-18-2015 , 10:42 PM
meta at legend and just around that is mage, hunter, and rogue, with druid 4th. the first 3 just dont run taunts, largely. so tbk is not good now
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02-18-2015 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
more or less my list from last month that i used to hit legend:



cards not pictured are dr boom and tirion

i dont like bolvar. the 5 drops for paladin are insane, given QMs are a must, loatheb is SO GOOD right now, and i personally love greenskin/harrison. hell, sludges are great but i just cant fit them.

recently cut back from 2 arguses. the wrath makes my deck more my own i guess but the burst really matters. a lot of paladin decks use just 1 equality, so it does give me another board combo clear.
Deck list is solid...I go back and forth between running loatheb or not. I used to think it was a broken card, and it still may be, but I feel Bolvar is the perfect pre BGH target before Boom and Rag in my deck...and if the curve permits...faceless into bolvar is the perfect finisher since bgh silence and removal was probably already used on boom and rag prior to that...adds versatility.

Not only that, but bolvar is a 5 drop so you can play him with a healbot/sludge...thus gaining tempo/life and BGH/silence sacrifice...most people don't see it coming at level 6 and above... Surprise factor is needed

But your deck is still terrific, it's just a personal preference and I may well go back to something a little faster like your deck
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02-19-2015 , 02:03 PM
Pally Meta Deck changes:

Made a few tweaks last night to my deck that seems to dominate in this meta now with more rogues prevalent. Loatheb into Sylvanas into Troggzor is devastating. Here is the list. It keeps me from sacrificing my early game as well

http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder...272:1;12280:1;
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02-20-2015 , 05:39 PM
Damn meta is different on EU, Rogues are so last week here. Hunters (pretty much all types) > mages > druid
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02-20-2015 , 05:41 PM
I haven't played much the last two days. How is the meta right now? On the NA that is
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02-21-2015 , 06:44 AM
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I haven't played much the last two days. How is the meta right now? On the NA that is
Hunters. Hunters everywhere.
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02-22-2015 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KremePuff
Pally Meta Deck changes:

Made a few tweaks last night to my deck that seems to dominate in this meta now with more rogues prevalent. Loatheb into Sylvanas into Troggzor is devastating. Here is the list. It keeps me from sacrificing my early game as well

http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder...272:1;12280:1;
I really liked Troggzor earlier in the season, but not so much now. I haven't seen many Rogues lately.
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02-22-2015 , 11:30 PM
Can someone post what they consider a true control paladin? People have told me control pally has cropped up on the ladder lately, but I haven't seen it.
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02-23-2015 , 10:59 AM
Control paladin doesnt use Knife Juggler, might use only 1 muster for battle, uses both equalitys and have high mana curve ie. 2xlay of hands/kelthuzad/2x piloted golem or sth like that
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02-25-2015 , 05:52 PM
Last Run into Legend...Hopefully this deck works out for me. I should hit gold legend hero today or tomorrow too. Let me know if you have any thoughts (btw I know I don't run any equalities, but they often don't fit in the theory of this deck...)

Tempo Paladin List:
2X Zombie Chow
2X Owl
2X Knife Juggler
2X Shielded Minibot
1X Coghammer
2X Muster For Battle
2X Aldor Peacekeeper
1X BGH
2X Truesilver Champion
2X Consecration
1X Cult Master
1X Defender of Argus
1X Antique Healbot
1X Captain Greenskin
2X Quartermaster
2X Sludge Belcher
1X Sylvanas
1X Dr. Boom
1X Ragnaros
1X Tirion

Thoughts?
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02-25-2015 , 06:12 PM
dck seems fine and good, gl!
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02-26-2015 , 07:03 AM
2x owl seems too much.

Would replace one with either equality or haunted creeper (for juggler/cult master synergy)
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02-26-2015 , 11:19 AM
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2x owl seems too much.

Would replace one with either equality or haunted creeper (for juggler/cult master synergy)
I actually like the haunted creeper idea and it sticks to the rectangle curve I love. will try that, although double owl often can catch someone off guard and helps get through taunts when needed...maybe I'll take out the second zombie chow out...
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03-02-2015 , 07:23 PM
Who would be considered the expert in Paladin play? Is it Strifecro? But he doesn't specialize in Paladin...I know Hotform has some decent control Paladin's and Ek0p plays a cool aggro/midrange pally, but I'm wondering if I'm missing the someone who specializes in Paladin play.
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03-03-2015 , 03:26 AM
Probably Koyuki at one point, but I think the game has kind of surpassed him now, or it could just be that paladin was so bad for so long that he stepped away from it.

What is the deal with the super greedy control pally decks on the ladder at the moment? Midrange paladin seems better by a great deal in the start of the season meta, and yet people are playing these insanely slow paladin decks with double lay on hands.
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