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Most 2 drops have 2 health in the current meta though. Knife Juggler, Minibot, Mad Scientist, Sorcerer's App, Haunted Creeper, Elekk, Druid Sabre, etc. Axe doesn't help against Darnassus, Mana Wyrm, Zombie Chow, any Priest drop. It can kill those with Trogg on board, but you wouldn't want to do that. You'd Mulligan it away against Druid in favor of Lightning Bolt. If people starting running Flame Juggler it'd be terrible (the Axe).

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11-08-2015 , 08:27 PM

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That Monkey card is no joke. Super good.

Monkey is going to make a midrange warrior viable.

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11-08-2015 , 08:28 PM

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theres a few more like voidwalker

also doesnt kill shredder which is kind of a big deal for a weapon

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11-08-2015 , 08:30 PM

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Back to the Desert Camel. I was thinking Midrange Hunter mayyybe could be stretched just a few turns later and run Zombie Chow. Maybe even a minion heavy deck and no kill commands.

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11-08-2015 , 08:39 PM

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i feel like pulling out a free webspinner on 3 and having two beasts at once on board coming up to turn 4 is so huge

camel+houndmaster would be a sick mulligan to keep

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11-08-2015 , 08:56 PM

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I think Desert Camel only works if you're just running Injured Kvaldir at 1. That is something worth testing. If you're running Webspinners then Desert Camel is so brutal when your opponent is running one drops too. You're giving the opposing 1 drop charge too.

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11-08-2015 , 08:58 PM

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Ethereal Conjurer is one I'm starting to come around on. Discover a spell is possibly better than drawing a card, and 6/3 is better than Azure Drake's body.

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11-08-2015 , 09:16 PM

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(if its played on 3 and you have nothing on board, otherwise you can answer their 1 drop first)

agreed it could be itneresting to use it with kvaldir tho.

Drawing the injured bum would suck tho

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11-08-2015 , 09:36 PM

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Ethereal Conjurer is one I'm starting to come around on. Discover a spell is possibly better than drawing a card, and 6/3 is better than Azure Drake's body.

What is the chance of discovering Blizzard or Flamestrike? If you're running the Conjurer I think you'd be doing it to find AOE or hard removal (both Polys) that aren't in your deck, giving some hope of comeback where Azure Drake just loses. When ahead or even Drake seems better.

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11-08-2015 , 09:38 PM

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i dont really think that 6/3 is better than 4/4

and the spell dmg from azure drake is kinda big

agree that discover mage spell is better than drawing a card on avg tho

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11-08-2015 , 10:01 PM

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Druid 3/2 raptor will be the best card of the set. It's a scaled down version of piloted shredder which is one of the games elites. Imagine having to deal with them on 3 then 4.

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11-08-2015 , 10:15 PM

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shredder fills in the ramp from turn 2 tho

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11-08-2015 , 10:22 PM

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I like it better than Shade in every Druid deck. It's def better in aggro Druid, midrange is debateable. I was never a fan of Shade though.

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11-08-2015 , 10:57 PM

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Actually kind of smart to give the 3 drop shredder to the class that uses 3 drops the least.

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11-08-2015 , 11:38 PM

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I don't see how Mounted Raptor is better than Harvest Golem, and you hardy see that any more. It seems much worse than Tuskarr Totemic, which can get you free cards that cost 2 or 3 immediately.

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11-09-2015 , 12:00 AM

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tuskarr totemic is super strong just stuck in the **** class

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11-09-2015 , 12:21 AM

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I don't see how Mounted Raptor is better than Harvest Golem, and you hardy see that any more. It seems much worse than Tuskarr Totemic, which can get you free cards that cost 2 or 3 immediately.

Raptor can trade into the front half of a Shredder. It's a lot better just due to that.

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11-09-2015 , 12:22 AM

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theres a lot of big upside 1 drops too, not many nightmarish ones like aspirant or doomsayer for shredder

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11-09-2015 , 12:26 AM

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Sticky minions are just stronger in druid because of the savage roar threat. Having bodies on the board, any bodies, is dangerous.

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11-09-2015 , 01:49 AM

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27 mage spells if I counted correctly

11% to get one specific spell
25% for at least one of two
75% to get a spell that Tempo Mages are already running

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11-09-2015 , 03:33 AM

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It doesnt say it is a mage spell. You probably draw from all class spells.

Thought of something: does unearthed raptor get double deathrattle with Brann? If so, you can imagine getting 16*deathrattle with two raptors and shadowsteps. There's a Trolden video waiting to happen with a leper gnome and a 32 damage raptor.

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11-09-2015 , 03:46 AM

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Thought of something: does unearthed raptor get double deathrattle with Brann? If so, you can imagine getting 16*deathrattle with two raptors and shadowsteps. There's a Trolden video waiting to happen with a leper gnome and a 32 damage raptor.

Thought about the mechanics, it... should actually, if i understand the mechanics correctly. You can definitely stack deathrattles at present. Ancestral Spirit is the easiest way to test, just use it on something that already has a deathrattle.

I'm not clear how shadowsteps would help though? Can definitely see some raptor/conceal into baron plays though,

Btw, there's also a lot of great deathrattles near the top: http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards?filte...=129&display=3

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11-09-2015 , 04:18 AM

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My idea was: play leper gnome, Brann, raptor 1 on gnome (2 deathrattles), raptor 2 on raptor 1 (4 deathrattles), shadowstep raptor 1, raptor 1 on raptor 2 (8 deathrattles), shadowstep raptor 2, raptor 2 on 1 (16 deathrattles).