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01-07-2016 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by D104
more i think about it, it's correct to clear it now

given that he's playing shade, its prob midrange and not aggro, so fan is a really low value card in the match

you're gonna get to cycle 2 cards out of the play, so hopefully some good spells come your way to play with teacher
Sounds about right.
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01-07-2016 , 04:25 PM
I ended up going coin/prep/thalnos/fan. Pretty much 100% it is MR agreed, never see shade in aggro and frankly way more MR now.

I didn't have enough time to think of all future turns or anything but it seemed at least ok cause sometimes just one hit from a shade is one too many and since I'm not oil it will be hard to flurry it down.

Was also thinking I'm still up one card even wasting prep and coin since Thalnos draws and opp may not even want to drop Darnasuss there since a BS would kill it so I'd keep tempo and if not kill it easily. If board is empty on T3 since he used up innervate and shade I would just play tempo SI (which is what happened) and then can maybe get Teacher on an empty board which is annoying for druid with 5 health.

Will post another one V druid later tonight that I'm curious about too.

Last edited by jhall23; 01-07-2016 at 04:32 PM.
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01-07-2016 , 11:08 PM
Ok here is the 2nd one. Different game still Druid spot.

I never think to take screen shots during game and it is just easier to cut out the top part of Decktracker replay than grey out the cards. Druid Innervated Emperor and has 4 cards in hand and full health +1 armor.

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01-07-2016 , 11:22 PM
backstab SI dagger hit seems pretty damn good
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01-07-2016 , 11:26 PM
FWIW, my contributions in this thread are not intended to be used as advice, they are what I would do (which is likely not close to optimal since I suck) along with my weak attempt at justifying my choice with some level of logic.

Spoiler:
Run Tomb Pillager into Emperor, and then coin Azure Drake and then probably hit face for 1 damage with our weapon. It's a clean play - yes it burns the coin which could be used as an Auctioneer trigger in future turns, but it prevents face damage. You could get fancy with backstab, SI7 Agent, and finishing Emperor off with the weapon, but it's mana inefficient, and putting 5 damage on our face. And sapping an Emperor always seems really bad, since it's just coming back out and discounting cards even more.
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01-08-2016 , 12:10 AM
Oh I guess I should have added I only run 1 Healbot in the deck cause I know some Maly run 2. Was just rolling with JJ's latest which had Edwin in there (which actually won me a **** ton of games)
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01-08-2016 , 08:14 AM
Afaict he used coin already?

I like dkgos line
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01-08-2016 , 09:08 AM
I used coin on T3 to play the Pillager.
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01-08-2016 , 09:44 AM
Shade on 3 innervate emperor on 4, pretty slow Druid open Kappa
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01-08-2016 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by D104
Afaict he used coin already?

I like dkgos line
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Originally Posted by jhall23
I used coin on T3 to play the Pillager.
If this is in response to my post, Tomb Pillager deathrattle gives another coin, right?
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01-08-2016 , 12:18 PM
I don't think that was in response to you. I think he just wanted to know if the Druid (or I) had used the coin already since it is a bit harder to tell from the Decktracker replay screen shots until you are used to looking at them.

But yes, we get another coin if we kill with pillager, so you line is something that is possible.
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01-09-2016 , 10:49 AM
Maybe this one is just the obvious play of Backstab/SI/Poke, which is what I did. It builds the best board for sure.

When I was thinking about it though I was wondering whether it is the winning line though because tanking 5 might be too much when I could avoid it and I'm going to take a minimum of 4 more from the shade depending on when it unstealths. So I'll be in combo range with not much more damage taken and I don't know if I can race a T8 combo (if only one combo piece got discounted).
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01-11-2016 , 07:32 PM
Here is a spot that I was unsure of. Against a rogue. You can't see it from the screenshot but he has a weapon with Deadly Poison equipped.



Is the best play to swipe the pillager? Or to coin Druid of the Claw? I think shredder sucks as it is really weak to flurry.
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01-11-2016 , 08:09 PM
Yep. Just swipe.
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01-11-2016 , 08:10 PM
Could also wrath hero power obv. I prefer swipe tho
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01-12-2016 , 04:36 PM
Prefer swipe too. Mana wise, Wrath combos better with keeper if he plays a shredder or violet teacher.
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01-12-2016 , 07:24 PM
swipe for sure - can't play shredder b/c you get rekt by flurry
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01-12-2016 , 10:30 PM
No love for Wrath + Shapeshift? Swipe could be useful against Teacher's tokens.
Maybe Wrath is useful against SI-7 and Earthen but I prefer using my minions to clear them than dealing with 1/1 with my minions.
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01-12-2016 , 10:54 PM
Don't think swipe that effective against teacher though as you still need to do 1 damage to the teacher itself and I am not thrilled about face tanking 3 more after tanking 5 this turn. +
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01-12-2016 , 11:46 PM
In general it is good to use the more expensive spell on a turn where you can't do anything else significant with your mana (IE hero power). Obviously not a hard n fast rule, but it gives more flexibility on future turns. Here I think that applies, plus tanking 5 (well 4 with HP) sucks cause at some point a race will be started in this matchup.
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01-13-2016 , 03:36 AM
Can you elaborate why using the more expensive spell? I thought I should hold on to the more expensive (and impactful) removal if the result is the same.
I don't really mind taking 4 damage as the Rogue almost certainly will use his life total as a resource to clear our minions too, and Swipe might be useful against Teacher's tokens and Azure Drake later in the game.
Maybe I got this one fundamentally wrong but I just watch Trump Basic teaching (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM-L...cbVjzHsnH9PjDX).
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01-13-2016 , 09:15 AM
well the lower the manacost of a card is the more flexible it is.
next turn you can go 4drop coin wrath. a possibility you do not have with the more expensive swipe.
the wrath also can draw you a card.

so basicly you are clearing this turn and you wont be able to get on the board at the same time no matter what. if you keep the swipe and have to swipe in the next few turns you will likelly do nothing but clear on a future turn while the wrath is flexible enough to clear something and not lock you out of playing a minnion which can be a huge temposwing.
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01-13-2016 , 02:22 PM
Why is druid of the claw not the preferred play? Don't you generally want minions out before spells? Is it because it leaves us an awkward next turn with no 5 drops?
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01-13-2016 , 02:37 PM
Yeah I think swipe is the obvious play

I think I want to be able to coin boom and claw is also weak to flurry
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01-13-2016 , 03:21 PM
The rogue has a super easy clear on the druid of the claw, we don't have a good turn 5 if we coin it out now and the druid of the claw is so versatile I don't like playing it just for the stats if I have other plays. We might need a taunt or charge minnion later.
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