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Old 10-25-2015, 03:18 PM   #23526
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Yeah sorry for not wanting a deck in the game that could deliver 70+ damage in one turn and make most of the blizzcon qualifications basically unwatchable.
That's why 50k viewers still watched it. And watching druids and paladins is more exciting right now?

You deserve facehunters and secret paladins. You don't think of overall game balance but one issue.
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Old 10-25-2015, 03:39 PM   #23527
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The Aggro decks are also better
This is the crux of it frankly. It has little to do with cost of deck. Aggro is better.
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Old 10-25-2015, 04:05 PM   #23528
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That's why 50k viewers still watched it. And watching druids and paladins is more exciting right now?

You deserve facehunters and secret paladins. You don't think of overall game balance but one issue.
50k still watched it, but there was a lot of voices, not only myself, that thought it was pretty stale.

Do I think watching druids + paladins is more exciting? Hell no.

There's a lot of issues with this game, but overall I still enjoy it. All I want is more balance and opportunities for deck builders to manage the meta.

Okay guys, I've said enough in this thread, I'm gonna back down and chill from posting for a bit. Last thing I want is to turn this thread into my own personal soap box. Apologies for posting too much as is.
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Old 10-25-2015, 04:08 PM   #23529
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I don't really have a sympathy for people who don't like aggro and wanted Patron nerfed. You brought it on yourselves.
I think most of the hate came from the OTK aspect of Patron, not the aggro.
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Old 10-25-2015, 05:21 PM   #23530
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I think most of the hate came from the OTK aspect of Patron, not the aggro.
His point is that Patron balanced the aggro. E.g., Mid range hunter was much better against Patron than face hunter. So people played midrange hunter instead of face hunter, slowing down the meta.

Without Patron keeping the face hunters out of the meta, we get a lot more face hunters. Similar process for other aggro decks.
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Old 10-25-2015, 05:25 PM   #23531
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I don't mind seeing zoo decks coming back post nerf. It's the one aggro deck I think requires a little bit of thought.
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Old 10-25-2015, 05:45 PM   #23532
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I feel like they play Loatheb EVERY ****ING TIME that I'm about to get back into the game. Like, 100% of the time I'm behind and can swing it my way...sigh.
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:21 PM   #23533
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Loatheb is such a good 5 drop. I feel like too many decks cut this card.
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:25 PM   #23534
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I don't mind seeing zoo decks coming back post nerf. It's the one aggro deck I think requires a little bit of thought.
**** zoo. Guy cleared a savage combatant and stealthed 3/3 shade with juggler + 4plosion. Didn't miss that ****...
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:39 PM   #23535
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To be honest, if the next releases increases RNG, I don't think this game is playable beyond the pleb level.
More RNG does not mean less skill.

Do I really need to be making this argument in a friggin poker forum?!?
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:50 PM   #23536
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Yeah sorry for not wanting a deck in the game that could deliver 70+ damage in one turn.
So much this. Aggro wasn't the only type of deck that patron kept down. Any sort of slower deck that wasn't handlock or control warrior got squeezed out too. People played patron because it was insanely dominant, don't act like you were doing the rest of us a ****ing favor.
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:57 PM   #23537
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So much this. Aggro wasn't the only type of deck that patron kept down. Any sort of slower deck that wasn't handlock or control warrior got squeezed out too. People played patron because it was insanely dominant, don't act like you were doing the rest of us a ****ing favor.
How are those decks doing now?
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:58 PM   #23538
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People played patron because it was insanely dominant
...except it wasn't.

The only place where patron dominated was in tourney registrations and the thoughts and minds of the general population.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:20 PM   #23539
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it was dominant at the top of the ladder though.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:25 PM   #23540
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How are those decks doing now?
Hold on let me ask Dr 6
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:26 PM   #23541
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...except it wasn't.

The only place where patron dominated was in tourney registrations and the thoughts and minds of the general population.
We've obv covered this discussion in great detail so we don't need to get into it again, but I don't agree with you.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:34 PM   #23542
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People complain about aggro but I quened up 3 control priest vs fatigue warrior games in a row the other night and I didn't want to be alive anymore.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:35 PM   #23543
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People are going to whine about the meta no matter wtf happens. There will always be a top deck and there will always be annoying cards. That's how games work.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:37 PM   #23544
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(and its worse in games that they dont balance enough ._.)
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:40 PM   #23545
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At least with aggro the game is over quickly. ****ing CW, CP or Fatigue warrior are so ****ing annoying.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:43 PM   #23546
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There's an insane number of Druids at legend. Haven't played any of the aggro variety, but regular combo, and even single combo with double war / cenarus is popping up in like half of my games. I started running The Black Knight to counter it. No idea why AOW is so prevalent in this meta.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:48 PM   #23547
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There's an insane number of Druids at legend. Haven't played any of the aggro variety, but regular combo, and even single combo with double war / cenarus is popping up in like half of my games. I started running The Black Knight to counter it. No idea why AOW is so prevalent in this meta.
AOW is popular when there is a ton of aggro. It's tough to remove which helps in combo.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:53 PM   #23548
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...except it wasn't.

The only place where patron dominated was in tourney registrations and the thoughts and minds of the general population.
Are we really repeating this argument? lol.

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Was watching some dreadsteed deck today, it seems great vs the secret paladins. May even give it a shot.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:57 PM   #23549
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dunno why tempo storm has zoo so low. It's weak vs face hunter but that's hardly unwinnable. I've yet to lose to a secret paladin with it. I think it's in a good place post patron.

I put a shadowflame in the deck and that is just a game winner vs paladins imo.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:59 PM   #23550
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Zoo is back in a big way. I keep mulligan for Demonlock since that's the only Warlock I played for weeks, but since the warsong patch it's almost exclusively zoo. I keep forgetting.
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