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Old 10-13-2015, 02:06 PM   #22926
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And it drops BEFORE the World Tourney. GJGE Blizzard
last year the leeroy + buzzard nerf happened between qualifiers and blizzcon
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:08 PM   #22927
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:10 PM   #22928
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Everyone so happy about it but that sucks. It seems like blizzard have no idea how to nerf a card or deck without killing it completely. I enjoyed playing patron a lot more than facing secret paladin or other aids decks. Sure it won a bunch but so does every deck on ladder. I can't wait to face all the zoo decks that can never get punished
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:10 PM   #22929
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i dont think you can really nerf patron without killing it completely

even something minor like putting battle rage at 3 mana would make it a bad deck
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:11 PM   #22930
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I think there would have been much better nerfs.

Give instead of have for the commander.
2 life for Grimm or 2 life for Frothing--would make them much more fragile and you couldn't have super combos although it would make commanding shout playable again.

Now it's dead. #1 deck for what 5 months and now basically one of the worst decks....lol blizzard.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:14 PM   #22931
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New warsong combo, warsong into Korkron for 5 damage!!! Blizzard pls nerf
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:14 PM   #22932
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wut

girm patron would not be playable if frothing or patron had less hp lol, at all.

and it would also kill frothing in other possible decks/arena. At least only warsong got killed in that manner, while possibly adding some incentive for charge decks( wont happen imo)
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:16 PM   #22933
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i dont think you can really nerf patron without killing it completely

even something minor like putting battle rage at 3 mana would make it a bad deck

Yeah but there's a difference between trying to find a good balance and just smashing doom hammer on the whole deck
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:17 PM   #22934
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RIP the actual Grim Patron card. You were never the problem, Frothing/Battle Rage/Warsong were the real issues. Goodnight sweet prince.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:18 PM   #22935
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1. Making changes before blizzcon is a good thing. Magic relatively recently started having their pro tours when a new set released to change the format and it ended up making the events significantly better to watch. It's not just the same few decks we've been seeing for months now. It'll have the potential to be new and exciting.

2. Good nerf and good riddance. There was absolutely nothing enjoyable about that deck playing with it or against it. Just dying from 28 to no board wasn't an enjoyable experience. Same reasoning they nerfed Miracle and Leeroy: having games where there's no real interaction for the opponent to have is no bueno.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:19 PM   #22936
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I really never thought the issue was Grimm/Warsong. They were annoying but for most decks they could be removed and usually they didn't OTK you although the card draw was annoying. The issue was the double frothing combo which should have never existed if the language on warsong was fixed to give charge as long as your minion is less than 3 health for the turn. The fact that you can bring frothings out and get them to 35+ damage on a turn was so stupid and not be able to react.

I agree with others that have stated going against druid also sucks but most of the time you know it's coming and it's capped at 14 or 22 damage (single or double SR) and obviously get's stronger if you have units on board. But all high damage combos are pretty annoying.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:20 PM   #22937
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Further on point one: When every deck selection on the competitive scene begins with "can this beat patron? if not, trash it" and then they get rid of that deck, it'll open up a lot of new decks for blizzcon. And that's great.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:22 PM   #22938
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I dunno how my freeze mage has survived then as its incredibly irritating to lose to.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:23 PM   #22939
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Further on point one: When every deck selection on the competitive scene begins with "can this beat patron? if not, trash it" and then they get rid of that deck, it'll open up a lot of new decks for blizzcon. And that's great.
Will see. Hopefully it's just not MR Druid, Handlock and Secretadin. Aggro druid is pretty damn lame too.

Most of the top 10 "meta snapshot decks" are pretty lame though.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:26 PM   #22940
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hopefully one or two new decks emerge that sucked against patron, like hobgoblin bolster or something.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:26 PM   #22941
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Yeah, I mean it's possible it just becomes that and if so that'll suck. I'm optimistic that this opens up the potential though.

Also, on a different note I saw firebat mention conquest was almost done. Is BC not conquest and what's the new plan?
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:26 PM   #22942
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hopefully one or two new decks emerge that sucked against patron, like hobgoblin bolster or something.
hobgoblin/bolster warrior incoming
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:36 PM   #22943
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Yes, "can this deck beat secret paladin, if not scrap it" is so much better
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:37 PM   #22944
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its one less on the list
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:52 PM   #22945
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congrats guys, you got exactly what you wanted
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:54 PM   #22946
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good riddance
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:56 PM   #22947
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I dunno how my freeze mage has survived then as its incredibly irritating to lose to.
So is Oil Rogue, but there's a difference between 15-20 damage combos you can keep in check by clearing the board and 30+ damage combos you can do nothing about.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:58 PM   #22948
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mysterious challenger YOU'RE NEXT
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Old 10-13-2015, 03:03 PM   #22949
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Another hit to warrior as an arena class.
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Old 10-13-2015, 03:05 PM   #22950
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let's nerf all the "op cards."

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