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Old 06-09-2015, 07:42 PM   #20251
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A good point of illustration with regard to Mad Scientist is that there isn't a single Paladin deck that incorporates the card (that is actually even slightly successful) vs it's a staple of EVERY Mage/Hunter deck.

Granted, both Mages and Hunters have other positive synergy with running secrets (like Eaglehorn Bow or Flamewaker) but the enormity of 1 mana vs 2 vs 3 is shown.
the paladin secrets are stupid

obviously they have to be weak since they're 1 mana but I think making them that way was a really poor decision
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Old 06-09-2015, 07:48 PM   #20252
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shouldve given 1 mana secrets to rogue instead of paladin, or something.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:04 PM   #20253
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just from a flavor perspective, how does paladin have secrets but rogue doesnt
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:47 PM   #20254
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just from a flavor perspective, how does paladin have secrets but rogue doesnt
It was the other way around in the alpha, but Blizzard felt Paladin needed something to seperate it from other classes and since Rogue already had the Combo, Stealth, and cards like Backstab and Betryal; they gave it to Paladin.
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:01 PM   #20255
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I like where wombat's head is at, and I can't think of any other reason then it being a tournament mode.

Some say it may look a lot like CONSTRUCTED CONQUEST ARENA...either you hit 12 wins (4 series won) or you're out after your first Best of 5...sounds a little convoluted, but cool as well.

WOMBAT, would the 16 man be single elimination? I can't imagine organizing 16 players to be a Best of 5 at one time...
I assume everything will have to be single elimination in order to keep things moving.

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man if tournaments cost gold and winner take all or something, with the whole player pool being randomized...

Dats a lot of frakkin easy gold.


beat: like in warcraft 3 auto tournaments, the downside is the wait time between games
Warcraft3 tourneys were elite though. You could either spam games and try and win or try and sit on a good record. The 3-1-1 open round record decision was a metagame sweat back in 2004-2007. Good times.

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Old 06-09-2015, 11:18 PM   #20256
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Yeah Shaman sucks, I used to play mostly Shaman and I really do love the class playing Midrange. I can't stand the Mech **** even for aggro decks it's not fun.

Any class can get to legend with enough skill and an ok deck. Midrange shaman can get legend, but it will be a much more brutal slog through than if you pick other decks.

It is really annoying cause you can play the RNG to the best of your ability and just get punished for it. At least with mid-range there was a lot of skill in managing overload and planning at least 2-3 turns in advance cause sometimes you need to have the 5 mana on turn 5 for Drake or Totem storm and sometimes you need 6 on 6 for Fire ele, but sometimes not and there is a lot of balancing of risks going on. If you **** up it hurts way more where as other classes you can change your plans more easily cause you mana isn't boned.

I play way fewer games these days and almost 0 Shaman since BRM and just am far less annoyed by things out of my control and the general weakness of the class I chose.
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:42 PM   #20257
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I thought the BRM board was going to get included in the online rotation....what happened there?
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:54 PM   #20258
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Somehow someway I always end back up on ramp taunt Druid. It's just too good in this meta.
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:15 AM   #20259
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Somehow someway I always end back up on ramp taunt Druid. It's just too good in this meta.
Yes it is.
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:19 AM   #20260
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Generally I'm fine with Patron Warrior, I think it's a cool deck and has plenty of counterplay with it.

What I'm not fine with is when I play around it all game, leave no sub-3 attack minions up on turn 8, have total board control, 30 health, and threatening minions, and removed their Thaurissan after 1 turn...

Then they go

Warsong
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Frothing Berserker
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Inner Rage

and I'm dead. I don't think there should be any mechanic or combination of cards in the game that allows a deck to take an empty board on their side from 30 > 0
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:15 AM   #20261
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If the new thing is like a 4 player husng then F that. I'll just win back to back games on ladder and get the same thing from that.

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Let's get to the task at hand and speculate more on the new feature. A 16 man SNG seems realistic to me. A 64 man SNG would be even more fun imo but seems less likely.
i think the english hearthstone facebook posted something about a night at the tavern without a brawl beeing incompplete or something like that.
the german hearthstone facebook posted
aller guten dinge sind........4
which is a play on words based on the german saying aller guten dinge sind 3.
meaning something alomg the lines of good things tend to come in pairs of 3 or 3 is the charm.
someone speculated it would be a 2v2 mode and the hearthstone facebook replied there were currently no plany for 2 v2 mode.
now that might mean there arent any plans its allready past that stage and about to be implemented or if we take it on face value there wont be a 2v2 mode soon.
so what is it then?
4 person brawl would make sence but than i started thinking more.
how would for example unleash the hounds work? maybe its not that either. so it could be a 4 person husng or it could be a format were you max out at 4 wins in a row.

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It was the other way around in the alpha, but Blizzard felt Paladin needed something to seperate it from other classes and since Rogue already had the Combo, Stealth, and cards like Backstab and Betryal; they gave it to Paladin.
i did not know that. what kind of secrets did rogue have?
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:07 PM   #20262
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i did not know that. what kind of secrets did rogue have?
Not sure, I think it was so early in the dev that I can't even find any cards of those secrets while I can easily find cards that never made it out of Alpha.

Also, TAVERN BRAWL

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19508176
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:32 PM   #20263
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People on reddit are speculating that the new skin for Hunter is Alleria/Vereesa Windrunner.

The new skin for Mage is Medivh.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:43 PM   #20264
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Not sure, I think it was so early in the dev that I can't even find any cards of those secrets while I can easily find cards that never made it out of Alpha.

Also, TAVERN BRAWL

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19508176
tavern brawl looks interesting. wanna see what kind of ideas they come up with. also it doesn't mention rewards other than the pack for first win. its free admission (if i read that correctly) so i wonder if they'll do a separate ladder or something like that to keep it active?
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:57 PM   #20265
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tavern brawl looks interesting. wanna see what kind of ideas they come up with. also it doesn't mention rewards other than the pack for first win. its free admission (if i read that correctly) so i wonder if they'll do a separate ladder or something like that to keep it active?
It says it will be free on launch. I wonder if it plans to stay that way.

I'm not a big fan considering what was speculated, it seems to just be a weekly quest at this point.
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Old 06-10-2015, 01:13 PM   #20266
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:49 PM   #20267
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ehh kinda underwhelmed i thought it would be against random players for gold or something.

No reward is a bit annoying for a new mode.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:52 PM   #20268
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I welcome our new mage overlord tho

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Old 06-10-2015, 03:02 PM   #20269
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:06 PM   #20270
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Oh I mightve misread it must not be only vs friends
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:16 PM   #20271
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:40 PM   #20272
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It says it will be free on launch. I wonder if it plans to stay that way.

I'm not a big fan considering what was speculated, it seems to just be a weekly quest at this point.
Yes it's exactly a weekly quest. It seems like they are planning to change the reward and possibly have an entry price but they will definitely make it profitable to play, otherwise no one will play it long term.

I like it as a weekly quest. It's an opportunity to invent quirky deck, like in the adventure mode, but against real players.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:58 PM   #20273
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From what I read, it's not "no" reward. There will be a reward for your first win of each week, though that might be only for the first few weeks.

You'll also be able to do daily quests via the new mode.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:20 PM   #20274
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Medivh is a ***** no?

I've never seen Medivh in the game ever. Only whispers.

Why doesn't he show his ***** ass?
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:40 PM   #20275
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I think it sounds really cool. You get to play with alternate rules, premade decks, certain cards banned, etc. It gets around the stale meta of ranked, and the somewhat less stale meta of the arena.
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