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Old 08-10-2020, 01:52 PM   #48001
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I'm really enjoying Totem Shaman. Getting mini-yogg out on turn 1 can lead to some huge swings, especially if it procs totemic might. It's also possible to kill Druid before the big taunts get out
What deck are you using?
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Old 08-10-2020, 03:08 PM   #48002
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What deck are you using?
Hmmmm. I'm not sure how to export it. I'll just do a list.

2x each of
Lightning bloom
Totemic might
Totemic surge
Storms wrath
Surging tempest
Tour guide
Evil totem
Trick totem
Mana tide totem
Serpentshire portal
Totemic reflection
Splitting axe
Bloodlust
Totem golem
Runic carvings

Went from Bronze ten to diamond 9 only losing 2 games.

Any suggestions for improvements would be great.
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Old 08-10-2020, 03:11 PM   #48003
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I generally like the playstyle of control more. Youíre taking longer games but trying to win 70% of them. Vs spamming games as aggro, trying to win 53% of your games, many of them unwinnable. Not as fun IMO
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Just went 45-20, 69% win rate to legend with highlander priest, changed 1 or 2 cards from the norm. The 1/3 swap decks card won me exactly 1 of those games, other times it was a dead card or an annoyance at best. I imagine if i actually managed to draw it against combo mage it may have won me a few more.
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Old 08-10-2020, 03:18 PM   #48004
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I am also not sure that card is more than a gimmick.

I had a pretty funny moment against highlander priest. He swapped decks/hands with me and on the next turn I just used his 9 mana board clear to wipe his and my board, knowing he had no other board clear left (he had used soul mirror already). Then I fearlessly slammed down a huge board next turn, he concedes.
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Old 08-10-2020, 04:46 PM   #48005
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Hmmmm. I'm not sure how to export it. I'll just do a list.

2x each of
Lightning bloom
Totemic might
Totemic surge
Storms wrath
Surging tempest
Tour guide
Evil totem
Trick totem
Mana tide totem
Serpentshire portal
Totemic reflection
Splitting axe
Bloodlust
Totem golem
Runic carvings

Went from Bronze ten to diamond 9 only losing 2 games.

Any suggestions for improvements would be great.
I have used same deck. Seems like it is missing something but not sure what. Tried around platinum 5 and I have climbed like 1 rank. Tho I have not played too much yet.
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Old 08-10-2020, 04:52 PM   #48006
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I have used same deck. Seems like it is missing something but not sure what. Tried around platinum 5 and I have climbed like 1 rank. Tho I have not played too much yet.
Yeah, I'm not sure what either. It doesnt really need a closer because it has so much burst damage.
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Old 08-10-2020, 05:06 PM   #48007
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If you have 6 mana crystals, and play Forest Warden Omu, and then play Lightning Bloom - you will go back to 6 mana with overload of 2.

Everyone says is Lightning Bloom is OP. I thought that was lame. If it were Demon Hunter, I'd have ended up with 7 mana.
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Old 08-10-2020, 06:56 PM   #48008
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I've been playing highlander priest. I don't even care if I win but I love to drop Illucia and play their combo cards and make them sad. because lolcombo nerds.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:01 AM   #48009
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Decided to jump onto NA and play some Guardian druid. I must have run pretty pure but also the deck is rediculous. Easy legend before the nerfs come people.

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Old 08-11-2020, 12:00 PM   #48010
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Aggro/face rogue feels pretty decent - I really have wanted this archetype to work for a while.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:11 PM   #48011
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WTF i just got a win at r5 and 3 stars and it said ďyou cant lose stars at this rankĒ and didnt give me a ****ing star!
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:29 PM   #48012
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Guardian Druid is incredibly strong.

I took that list (with Shan'do Wildclaw in place of Speaker Gidra) for a quick 5-1 to get my Druid to 500 wins. I've always enjoyed the class so I'm surprised I don't have more wins with it.

I usually enjoy Druid metas. I enjoy playing them even when they're OP, compared to something like DH that I acknowledge was strong but wouldn't have fun grinding out games.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:35 PM   #48013
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Aggro/face rogue feels pretty decent - I really have wanted this archetype to work for a while.
I know it's not Rogue but Magehunter is the highest tier of aggro support. I'd be surprised if it's not an auto-include for pretty much any DH deck.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:39 PM   #48014
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My thing with guardian druid is that it feels very beatable with a lot of different kinds of decks. The innervate card allows for some busted turns but every deck seems like they can have busted turns. And thereís a lot of powerful removal they printed as well - I see it remaining strong and possibly nerfed but the stats iím seeing just donít support it being oppressive.

Just the bad matchup with highlander mage will keep it in check for this expansion.

Demon hunter winrate is creeping up again, has me concerned. I ran into some token decks last night that gave me some trouble.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:46 PM   #48015
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On another note, I'm a huge fan of the Studies cards. 2 Golden Nature studies is my first official craft of the expansion.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:52 PM   #48016
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The ability to go coin, Lightning Bloom, Kael'Thas, in to either Guardian Animals or Survival of the Fittest is just bonkers.

It reminds me of Possessed Lackey + Dark Pact. If memory serves correctly, you could originally do that on turn 5. I think Lackey was 5 and Dark Pact was 0. That was a hella powerful play that shaped the whole meta.

Having Kael'Thas and Lightning Bloom available together blows that Kobolds and Catacombs junk out of the water. Cute Void Lord on turn 5. I'll take my 5 mana and rush down your Void Lord, and leave a ridiculous persistent threat on the board (probably behind some kind of taunt that I may or may not have given big stat buffs). If they could somehow pull like a 1 mana Cube I think you'd be talking similar power levels.

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Old 08-11-2020, 01:14 PM   #48017
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Paladin can do bonkers stuff on turn 4-5. Against the aggro decks, youíre probably facing lethal by turn 4-5. Mage can stall them out with freezes or just devolve them. Priest has plenty of removal.

I dunno. Itís definitely ridiculous but I have only seen like one game out of a ~100 games now that had the situation you just described, and iirc I was playing warlock and wiped their board with plague of flames.

As aggro rogue i can just sap and keep slamming face and unless they saved removal theyíre in huge trouble by turn 5 if they have ignored my board for a huge combo like that.

I havenít even played the druid deck, no interest. But honestly playing highlander mage and aggro rogue I donít think Iíve lost more than a few games to them.

Gibberling druid on the other hand is some not fun bullshit to play against. Absolutely nothing you can do when they have the dream hand. Like literally nothing - youíll be facing a full board of 2/2ís by turn 2, and dead to savage roar on 3.
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Old 08-13-2020, 01:19 PM   #48018
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Old 08-13-2020, 04:47 PM   #48019
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I have used same deck. Seems like it is missing something but not sure what. Tried around platinum 5 and I have climbed like 1 rank. Tho I have not played too much yet.
So to counter the bigger druid and paladin decks, I've removed storms wrath, serpentshire portal, surging tempest and runic carvings and replaced it with devolving missles, diligent notetaker, marshspawn, and torrent.
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Old 08-13-2020, 04:51 PM   #48020
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Stealth/aggro rogue seems to do very well against guardian druid, they have almost no way to stop the onslaught of 3/1 stealths. Use the draw 5 cards from your deck for one mana card (broken af) to search for lethals when theyíre pretty low and they are usually dead by turn 5-6 before the really busted stuff starts.

It seems to struggle against mage, but other than that I like most of my matchups. Itís important to smash the face as much as possible with this deck because it has hella reach. Nearly every card in the deck generates damage in some way.

I love that draw 5 card. Itís broken as hell but fun to play. It gives some really unique ev calculation kind of situations. Lots of times you need to gamble on pulling 7 damage from your draw, and itís amazing how often you can actually pull those off. Itís a very aggressive deck that is hard to play but i think itís gonna be a meta contender.

Akama can almost certainly be subbed out for whatever you want. You hardly ever get his final form to matter in a game. Itís happened for me exactly one time, and it did win the game, but it feels way too slow for this style of deck. Iím thinking of playing the 4/2 stealth that resummons itself instead.

### Stealth Rogue
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
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# 2x (0) Backstab
# 1x (1) Plague of Madness
# 2x (1) Secret Passage
# 2x (1) Sinister Strike
# 2x (1) Spymistress
# 2x (1) Worgen Infiltrator
# 2x (2) Ashtongue Slayer
# 2x (2) Cold Blood
# 2x (2) Eviscerate
# 2x (2) Sap
# 2x (2) Sneaky Delinquent
# 1x (3) Akama
# 2x (3) Greyheart Sage
# 2x (3) Hooked Scimitar
# 2x (3) Wolfrider
# 2x (4) Burrowing Scorpid
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

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Old 08-13-2020, 07:39 PM   #48021
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Thanks jmakin. Tried it to get it to legend for a first time, but fell short. Climbed with paladin form gold five to diamond 1 but did not really get past from there. I think that rogue does pretty well against paladin too.
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Old 08-13-2020, 09:14 PM   #48022
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Played some more and made to legend for a first game. Almost messed up my last game. Misplayed combo and I was one off but opponent conceded.

Thanks for sharing your rogue deck jmakin. This got me over the line.
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Old 08-13-2020, 09:17 PM   #48023
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Awesome Iím glad it helped! Yea its matchup spreads at these ranks feels grrrrrrreaat

I am still creepin my way to diamond 3 but if i put in volume i know this deck will take it to legend. It somehow a lot of the time just gets there.
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Old 08-13-2020, 09:22 PM   #48024
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Did you consider changing wolfrider out? It felt bit slow and high cost, but did not have much better ideas instead of that.
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Old 08-13-2020, 10:03 PM   #48025
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I'll second that the aggro rogue decks seem to be working really well right now. I don't generally like face decks so shy away from them a bit. I was playing quest rogue and really liking it but sitting just above 50% over 30+ games. Switched to a more aggro weapon based list with self-sharpening sword, krastinov (+1/+1 to weapon) and steeldancer and went 9-0 instantly so far.
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