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Old 03-26-2020, 04:18 PM   #47501
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I like them doing it a bit before the expansion. Creates interesting temporary metas that need solving. Anything that shakes up the meta is good with me.
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Old 03-26-2020, 04:26 PM   #47502
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Power level has to be high after the galakrond expansion. If it isn’t you’d just have another Witchwood. That xpac almost killed the game
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Old 03-26-2020, 04:33 PM   #47503
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Iím like 3 wins from legend and itís super frustrating they did it today. Playing all out face to try to capitalize on the changes people are making, but it turns out dragon hunter losing leeroy does not harm the deck like at all.

I honestly dont know whatís supposed to beat dragon hunter rn. At best itís like a coin flip with the shaman deck im playing but feels much worse than that.
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:07 AM   #47504
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highlander/dragon hunter just doesn't lose right now



I've been playing almost completely the deck i posted a little bit ago in the thread past 2 weeks at 5-3, either i lose to the quick hunter version hitting my face with stormhammer every turn or the highlander version doing the same thing.

Honestly the problem is stormhammer. I don't like to call for nerfs early but that thing needs to be 2 attack or something.

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Old 03-29-2020, 05:29 AM   #47505
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Certainly loses when I play it. Reverse climbed to r4 twice from 2 wins away from legend. Every deck I play, the meta seems designed to beat, or I just queue like ass.
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Old 03-30-2020, 05:12 PM   #47506
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Highlander Warrior with Boom back to 7 is pretty much GOAT
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Old 03-31-2020, 02:40 AM   #47507
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Highlander Warrior with Boom back to 7 is pretty much GOAT

Itís so fun. Shame it only lasted this week. I had a 18 game win streak with it - when you play and run well itís just absolutely unstoppable.


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Old 03-31-2020, 05:54 PM   #47508
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I started in the dumpster at like rank 13 (took a couple months off) and went 30-7 with it to get to rank 5 real quick. felt pretty bad dunking on nerds but lol
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:28 AM   #47509
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New ladder starts today, which should be fun. Looks really good from streamers playing on Asian right now.
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Old 04-01-2020, 03:14 PM   #47510
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Got rank 15 last night (finally!) with my Dragon Paladin deck and some persistent effort. Seems like a good one to play for a beginnerish player like me because it pretty much plays on curve. Feel like I might be getting the hang of constructed, at least the basics.

Interested to see how the old ranks will translate to the new system.
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:48 PM   #47511
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New rank system is very good
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Old 04-01-2020, 06:29 PM   #47512
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Got rank 15 last night (finally!) with my Dragon Paladin deck and some persistent effort. Seems like a good one to play for a beginnerish player like me because it pretty much plays on curve. Feel like I might be getting the hang of constructed, at least the basics.

Interested to see how the old ranks will translate to the new system.

Congrats. It is best when beginning to either play face decks (when all else fails just smash face every turn should get you a decent way) but those dont always exist in every meta and there are matchups that are practically unwinnable which can be frustrating if youíre new.

The other good decks to play are minion based midrange decks, where your play every turn is to just use your highest mana card and keep control of the board.

Secret paladin way back in the day was a good example of this kind of deck.


Remember the goal is not to win every game but to win more than 50% of your games. If you are winning 53-55% you are considered extremely good.
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Old 04-01-2020, 06:33 PM   #47513
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Also remember a good motto: when in doubt, hit the face.
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:43 PM   #47514
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Galakrond Warrior really suffers with the loss of Acolyte of Pain and Leeroy. Both of those cards were important. Leeroy with Inner Rage and the minion that copies a damaged minion was very reliable burst to finish people off. I thought about replacing him with Reckless Rocketeer, but maybe Korkron Elite would be better. Not the same amount of damage but it's still a playable card.

But Acolyte of Pain was an MVP. The amount of whirlwind effects that you generated throughout the course of a game would generally draw at least 4 cards if not 5 or 6 from them. The deck runs out of gas much more often now, almost to the point where I think Pirate Warrior is stronger. Battle Rage can be decent card draw, but it's at least a full tier below Acolyte in terms of how good it is.

What kind of Dr. Boom list are you guys playing? I haven't seen it on the ladder yet, but a part of me is dreading that deck being super popular again. The games could be super grindy, and that tends to leave me feeling worn out after a long match, especially if you lose from some random effects. But that's true with any deck, I suppose (looking at you, Dragonqueen Alexstrasza...)
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:48 PM   #47515
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I just dont understand how galakrond warrior is a thing without leeroy. The 19 damage 10 mana combo was the main way I won games. With reckless rocketeer its just a 14 damage combo. Galakrond on his own as a win condition seems really weak and I dont think the deck can function as a control-ish type of deck.



This other deck is called highlander warrior. This is my deck:

### Highlander Warrior
# Class: Warrior
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 1x (1) Whirlwind
# 1x (1) Town Crier
# 1x (1) Shield Slam
# 1x (1) Eternium Rover
# 1x (2) Zephrys the Great
# 1x (2) Weapons Project
# 1x (2) Warpath
# 1x (2) Firetree Witchdoctor
# 1x (2) Dragon Roar
# 1x (3) Vulpera Scoundrel
# 1x (3) Shield Block
# 1x (3) SN1P-SN4P
# 1x (3) Livewire Lance
# 1x (3) EVIL Quartermaster
# 1x (3) Bomb Wrangler
# 1x (4) Restless Mummy
# 1x (4) Omega Devastator
# 1x (4) Molten Breath
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 1x (5) Supercollider
# 1x (5) Plague of Wrath
# 1x (5) Harrison Jones
# 1x (5) Dyn-o-matic
# 1x (5) Dragonmaw Scorcher
# 1x (5) Cobalt Spellkin
# 1x (5) Brawl
# 1x (7) Siamat
# 1x (7) Dr. Boom, Mad Genius
# 1x (8) Deathwing, Mad Aspect
# 1x (9) Dragonqueen Alexstrasza
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Find this deck on https://hsreplay.net/decks/HFIFY90QX0FMSVAQ9mQZ6d/


I wish it had an execute but not sure what to sub out. Itís extremely, extremely fun. Multiple ways to win but it can take any common deck in the meta to fatigue and win. There is one super greedy rogue deck with the 4/4 lackeys that always shuffles 4 kronxes into their deck I cant beat in fatigue but thatís it.

And dont worry, boom is gone in a week. This deck will still stick around in some form though - Iím sure of it. Boomís an important win condition a lot of times but not absolutely necessary. Losing zilliax and snip snap will suck though.

Though Ive had boom literally bottom decked multiple times and it wasnt catastrophic. Love love love the deck
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:18 PM   #47516
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I will miss Boom. My favorite card/deck.
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Old 04-02-2020, 12:34 AM   #47517
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sadly ladder is infested with galakrond rogue basically ruining the game shrug
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:06 AM   #47518
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I played 2 games with that deck.

Lost the first to a Dragon Hunter where I went the first 4 turns without drawing a card that cost 3 or less. Easy victory for him.

Lost the second to a Dragon Hunter where I missed a 5 in 14, then 5 in 13, then 5 in 12 chance to draw an out to essentially win the game. On turn 5 I was thinking I had the game locked up, but really overestimated the less powerful half of my deck.

Then I realized that I wasn't playing Omega Assembly. I did double check to make sure I was playing Boom, because I hadn't seen him either game either.

Getting ready to play Dragon Hunter #3.
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:25 AM   #47519
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Actually it was a Highlander Shaman, which is cool. Congrats to him.

I got down to the last 9 cards in my deck without seeing Omega Assembly, but this time I know it's just because I never drew it.

I am now triple checking to see whether not Dr. Boom is actually in the deck.
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Old 04-02-2020, 06:32 AM   #47520
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I lost to a galakrond rogue with highlander warrior where i felt like i had stablised but couldnt beat his two collosus of the moons he got from pharoah cats lol. Is that deck still really good even without leeroy?
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Old 04-02-2020, 12:28 PM   #47521
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Galakrond Rogue is the worst matchup for Highlander Warrior it's borderline unwinnable and if the Rogue pilot is a great player it is actually unwinnable. Sucks that every other game is GR right now because HW beats everything else handily.
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Old 04-02-2020, 02:12 PM   #47522
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Wat, you have all the removal tools you need and galakrond rogue cannot deal with a big board onslaught created by your dragons and alexstraza. Save removal for the edwin, be smart with brawl, and its gg ez. Dont waste zephrys. Albatross is slightly annoying but they dont run it much and usually you can just wait them out til you draw one of the birds.

The only galakrond rogue it cant beat is the one with the 4/4 lackys and 5-7 kronxes. That version also runs albatross. Other than that I think itís one of the easiest matchups. Their lacky hero power is too slow for them to keep up with your lategame onslaught and you have a shitload of health to just wait them out.
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:50 PM   #47523
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every deck should just run albatross and be done with it
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:11 AM   #47524
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Honestly again - punish people who don't even change out one card and just netdeck by looking up their deck on a place like hsreplay while you play so you basically know their deck. Kinda sad how often you know their card down to the last
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:30 AM   #47525
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But thatís how competitive hearthstone works, you know every card in every deck. If you dont know every card in the deck your ability to perform really suffers. If you watch top legend players play, they frequently lose to weird tech cards someones running or a deck they arent familiar with.

There are only so many good cards in every set of card sets. The meta optimizes for the best decks. It isnt a lack of creativity or people just arent playing some unicorn deck - itís very stats and analysis driven. Thatís why we get so many highly optimized decks down to the last card.

Look at dragon hunter. Itís to the point where i dont think you can really change anything other than the trap set youíre running and everything else is the same. Itís because that combination of cards is absurdly powerful and been shown to win over massive sample sizes against a large variety of decks.

Idk sorry to ramble but i think it makes the game rather beautiful, but ive always preferred to take a statistical approach to it.
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