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Old 05-20-2019, 02:10 PM   #46626
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This xpac brought me back after a year off and now I’m out again. The prep nerf has destroyed rogue, it was the identity of the whole class. All of rogues overcosted spells were balanced around prep. There was absolutely no need for this. This is every bit the same as the wild growth nerf. The problem isn’t WG or prep, it’s bull**** cards like raiding party, Myra’s or UI that were the problem.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:22 PM   #46627
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Classes that beat Warrior were being held back by Rogue. It's a good move.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:36 PM   #46628
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It’s a short sighted overreaction to one meta. The miscreant nerf and raiding party nerfs were enough. Rogue has been in the dumpster plenty of times with prep. This nerf, like the wild growth nerf, kills the deck the defines the class.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:51 PM   #46629
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People don't like when Rogue is good so this type of reaction always comes.
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:06 PM   #46630
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Upcoming Changes:
Evil Miscreant, Health Reduced by 1. 1/4 instead of 1/5.
Raiding Party, now costs 4, up from 3.
Preparation, now reads "The next spell you cast this turn costs 2 less."
Archivist Elysianna, now cost 9, up from 8.

"Currently, if you want to build a deck that is strong against Rogue, you have just one reasonable option: Warrior. If you compare Rogue to Warrior, however, you’ll find that the latter class has a wide variety of good and bad matchups, which makes it unlikely that it’ll overtake Rogue in popularity in the current meta."
I just don't understand this logic. Why isn't the goal of the devs to have every matchup as close as 50/50 as possible? Why in the world is it a good thing that every class has good and bad matchups??
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:10 PM   #46631
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Side-note: i noticed meta snapshot added the spell mage thing i've been talking about as a tier 2 deck in their report a few days ago: https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/d...ot-may-17-2019
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:28 PM   #46632
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The prep nerf makes me sad

The other changes are good

Havent played hearthstone in a week
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:50 PM   #46633
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Miscreant nerf was very reasonable. Nerfing both Raiding Party and Prep seems like overkill. I feel like it probably would have been better to nerf Raiding Party and Waggle Pick. If they're going to touch Prep, seems like it should at least now be a rare card rather than epic, maybe.

I've been having fun feasting on rogue with Secret Hunter the last few days after a brief hiatus from game so I'm not thrilled about the timing.

I'm a bit disappointed they didn't touch Dr. Boom but they're probably waiting to see how these rogue changes pan out.
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Old 05-21-2019, 01:29 PM   #46634
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whoa
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/22990355
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Old 05-21-2019, 01:39 PM   #46635
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This is awesome. I want them to keep buffing/nerfing to keep things fresh between expansions.
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Old 05-21-2019, 01:59 PM   #46636
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THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO BUFF CARDS!
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Old 05-21-2019, 02:19 PM   #46637
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THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO BUFF CARDS!
amazing. wish they had been doing this for years. wonder if this is too late
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Old 05-21-2019, 02:20 PM   #46638
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think the new legendary is actually pretty ****ing good. Almost zilliax levels.
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Old 05-21-2019, 02:59 PM   #46639
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Crystology definitely didn’t need a buff. At 1 cost it is an absolutely insane tutor. 1 mana Pogo Hopper could also be pretty troublesome. Happy that they’re handing out buffs overall.

Think that the Prep nerf is insanely shortsighted. How many metas have we been through now where Rogue and Prep weren’t an issue?
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:24 PM   #46640
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Been thinking about it for a while, if i were a dev here's my changes:
1) Leeroy Charge->Rush; cost 5->4;
2) Dread Corsair cost 4->5
3) Wispering Woods cost 4->5
4) Magic Carpet stats nerfed to 1/4
5) Bombs now deal 4 damage
6) Dr. Boom bots now deal 1-3 damage
7) Dr. Boom (hero) bonus armor 7->5
8) Malygos changed to +7 spell damage, your spells cost 3 more.
9) The bottom 5 winrate cards from this expansion get +1 attack, +1 health, or both
Nailed the bottom one at least, although a previous expansion i guess makes more sense
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:08 PM   #46641
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thought i'd toss in my 2 cents as a mage main lul



Unexpected Results now maybeee useful by itself. It's a spell that gives 2 random {2}s (worth about 1.5) = 3, so at cost. Toss in that it's a spell and again, maybeee some use, but i doubt it. You need cards that give an advantage for the cost, which means you need something that uses the spell damage portion to amplify it, but so far it's been hard to fit spell damage minions into the decks.

Luna's Pocket Galaxy however had fringe use in previous patches before mage simply got better cards. There really aren't any insane deathwing dragonlord + N'zoth super value cards at 10 that you're just dying to get down.

Overall i predict fringe play and maybe some decks do work with them, but they're not gonna be world beaters

Last edited by Searix; 05-21-2019 at 08:25 PM. Reason: if you get them randomly from cyclone though that's a direct spell mage buff
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:10 PM   #46642
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btw, snip snap will allow a OHKO combo for any priest if it goes live and works as expected.

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Old 05-21-2019, 10:04 PM   #46643
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btw, snip snap will allow a OHKO combo for any priest if it goes live and works as expected.

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Old 05-22-2019, 10:02 AM   #46644
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I think i created a really competitive deck but obviously it doesn't work if it gets popular.

The idea behind is to give Jaraxxus to our opponent and finish it with sacrificial pact or generate extra 10-20 cards to have a massive advantage against control. We have the perfect healing tools also.

We crush all the aggro decks fairly easily and control warrior. It is like 40% vs hunters deathrattle decks though. So midrange is a problem.


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Old 05-22-2019, 02:50 PM   #46645
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Nerfs are live. Days like today make me feel good for not disenchanting duplicates.
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:52 PM   #46646
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2 golden preps, 1 golden 2 normal raiding party, like 20 miscreants and an unpacked golden elysiana

that's a lot of dust
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:46 PM   #46647
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prep is still probably usable, it's basically innervate but only works with spells in a class that needs combo activators
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Old 05-24-2019, 01:35 PM   #46648
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Cyclone mage is set up quite well in this meta
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Old 05-24-2019, 03:29 PM   #46649
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btw, snip snap will allow a OHKO combo for any priest if it goes live and works as expected.

I'm not sure if it's official or not, but I heard they're changing Reckless Experimenter so that the minions it affects can't cost less than 1 mana.
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Old 05-24-2019, 03:37 PM   #46650
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I'm not sure if it's official or not, but I heard they're changing Reckless Experimenter so that the minions it affects can't cost less than 1 mana.
Yeah, it is official.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone...r_card_change/
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