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Old 03-14-2019, 01:25 PM   #46001
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New cards look interesting...not going to lie I haven’t played much ladder in 6 weeks. Been waiting for standard rotation.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:33 PM   #46002
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Kalecgos is OP
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:59 PM   #46003
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Rafaam is also great

Its just a 1 card control killer that means you can just have 29 anti aggro cards and just turn them into value in matchups that its relevent
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:19 PM   #46004
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warlocks entire control package is going byebye
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:59 PM   #46005
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arena is down?
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:04 PM   #46006
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Spellward jeweller looks sweet.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:33 PM   #46007
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how is this much different than Arcane Tyrant? It's basically a 4/12 body vs. a 4/4 body and kalecgos costs 10 but has some upside

Like imagine you're playing Flamestrike this turn - if it's turns 7-9 you can't play kalecgos with this, while you can drop a 4/4 body in arcane tyrant. If it's turn 10 you get an additional 8 health on your minion with some upside, but even that upside (getting a free spell next turn) - is that really so huge?

That said - dragon tribe helps a lot
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:27 PM   #46008
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Tyrant is rotating, FLJ is rotating, Fury is rotating

Control mage will look much different and ideally 10 mana plays like this would be peak power unlike right now
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:51 PM   #46009
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That dragon has game breaking potential

Day one craft for sure
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:57 PM   #46010
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yeah if that's the strongest play in a deck I'm down for the meta
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:59 PM   #46011
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You could have that card in your hand for a long time and feel very good about it.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:04 PM   #46012
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It has everything. Hard to remove body, dragon activator which has historically has been an extremely strong deck archetype, two immediate powerful effects on the battlefield - discovery of a spell you can cast for free, or cast one of your own for huge tempo or value - and a passive that will almost certainly cause your opponent to lose the game if it stays alive a turn.

Itís absurd. Good thing a lot of dragon priests ridiculously powerful **** is rotating out.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:06 PM   #46013
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i guess i forgot about the discover part of the card, which makes it pretty good

Still a dead card in metas with aggro
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:49 PM   #46014
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It has everything. Hard to remove body, dragon activator which has historically has been an extremely strong deck archetype, two immediate powerful effects on the battlefield - discovery of a spell you can cast for free, or cast one of your own for huge tempo or value - and a passive that will almost certainly cause your opponent to lose the game if it stays alive a turn.

Itís absurd. Good thing a lot of dragon priests ridiculously powerful **** is rotating out.
it's a mage card
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:35 PM   #46015
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This card is nuts
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:54 PM   #46016
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Big tempo loss playing this card, additionally pretty bad if it’s at bottom of deck. Also has some comparables to dire frenzy - id arguably say frenzy is better. That said this card can also break the game but I’m not seeing it even with pogo
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:09 PM   #46017
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I don't see it being a real tempo loss. The earliest you'd play it is probably turn 4.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:21 PM   #46018
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I don't see it being a real tempo loss. The earliest you'd play it is probably turn 4.


Youíre spending a card to remove one of your own minions lol
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:23 PM   #46019
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it's a copy of a minion

also can target opposing minions
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:43 PM   #46020
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I think that rogue card has way more game busting potential than the mage dragon. At least it has the potential to be way more annoying.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:19 PM   #46021
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that card is toxic af lol at this game
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:36 PM   #46022
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Youíre spending a card to remove one of your own minions lol
You're not removing your own minion. You're shuffling a copy of it.

People don't play yetis on 4, so playing a 3 along side it isn't a super tempo loss. People are currently skipping turns with hunter winning, and it isn't even Rexxar carrying in all the games.

I think the card will see a lot of play.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:55 PM   #46023
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the only saving grace is that it's a rogue card and they generally don't go infinite/extend fatigue in Standard
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:14 PM   #46024
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I think that rogue card has way more game busting potential than the mage dragon. At least it has the potential to be way more annoying.
togg's scheme seems like it has higher upside but also may suck

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I don't see it being a real tempo loss. The earliest you'd play it is probably turn 4.
it's actually a decent tempo loss:
It's -1 card early game - when you have 4-7 cards normally until turn 5 and is completely dead against aggro.
It's -1 mana early game playing the card
It's also dependent on having a card you want to use it on, which you wont always find early game
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:34 PM   #46025
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togg's scheme seems like it has higher upside but also may suck



it's actually a decent tempo loss:
It's -1 card early game - when you have 4-7 cards normally until turn 5 and is completely dead against aggro.
It's -1 mana early game playing the card
It's also dependent on having a card you want to use it on, which you wont always find early game
I don't know how you say all of this when Hunter right now is skipping turn three sometimes with Master's Call and flipping the game later.

Priests are skipping turns against aggro currently too and winning (usually by ressing Zilly five times).

Being perfectly mana efficient and playing the biggest minion each turn is like the ABC strat of folding anything below a pocket pair or AQ in poker. It works for the most part but it isn't always the optimal line.
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