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03-14-2019 , 01:25 PM

#46001

capone0

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 43,152

New cards look interesting...not going to lie I haven’t played much ladder in 6 weeks. Been waiting for standard rotation.

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03-14-2019 , 01:33 PM

#46002

prizminferno

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Kalecgos is OP

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03-14-2019 , 01:59 PM

#46003

DonkDonkDonkDonk

Goose

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 40,104

Rafaam is also great

Its just a 1 card control killer that means you can just have 29 anti aggro cards and just turn them into value in matchups that its relevent

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03-14-2019 , 02:19 PM

#46004

prizminferno

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warlocks entire control package is going byebye

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03-14-2019 , 04:59 PM

#46005

BobboFitos

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Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72,763

arena is down?

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03-14-2019 , 05:04 PM

#46006

abysmal01

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,678

Spellward jeweller looks sweet.

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03-14-2019 , 06:33 PM

#46007

Searix

NFL Swami Overlord

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,233

how is this much different than Arcane Tyrant? It's basically a 4/12 body vs. a 4/4 body and kalecgos costs 10 but has some upside

Like imagine you're playing Flamestrike this turn - if it's turns 7-9 you can't play kalecgos with this, while you can drop a 4/4 body in arcane tyrant. If it's turn 10 you get an additional 8 health on your minion with some upside, but even that upside (getting a free spell next turn) - is that really so huge?

That said - dragon tribe helps a lot

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03-14-2019 , 07:27 PM

#46008

prizminferno

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Tyrant is rotating, FLJ is rotating, Fury is rotating

Control mage will look much different and ideally 10 mana plays like this would be peak power unlike right now

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03-14-2019 , 08:51 PM

#46009

jmakin

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 30,120

That dragon has game breaking potential

Day one craft for sure

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03-14-2019 , 08:57 PM

#46010

prizminferno

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yeah if that's the strongest play in a deck I'm down for the meta

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03-14-2019 , 08:59 PM

#46011

Aceium

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You could have that card in your hand for a long time and feel very good about it.

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03-14-2019 , 09:04 PM

#46012

jmakin

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 30,120

It has everything. Hard to remove body, dragon activator which has historically has been an extremely strong deck archetype, two immediate powerful effects on the battlefield - discovery of a spell you can cast for free, or cast one of your own for huge tempo or value - and a passive that will almost certainly cause your opponent to lose the game if it stays alive a turn.

It’s absurd. Good thing a lot of dragon priests ridiculously powerful **** is rotating out.

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03-14-2019 , 09:06 PM

#46013

Searix

NFL Swami Overlord

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,233

i guess i forgot about the discover part of the card, which makes it pretty good

Still a dead card in metas with aggro

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03-14-2019 , 09:49 PM

#46014

prizminferno

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Originally Posted by jmakin

it's a mage card

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03-15-2019 , 04:35 PM

#46015

DonkDonkDonkDonk

Goose

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 40,104

This card is nuts

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03-15-2019 , 04:54 PM

#46016

Searix

NFL Swami Overlord

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,233

Big tempo loss playing this card, additionally pretty bad if it’s at bottom of deck. Also has some comparables to dire frenzy - id arguably say frenzy is better. That said this card can also break the game but I’m not seeing it even with pogo

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03-15-2019 , 05:09 PM

#46017

Paul D

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I don't see it being a real tempo loss. The earliest you'd play it is probably turn 4.

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03-15-2019 , 05:21 PM

#46018

jmakin

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Originally Posted by Paul D

I don't see it being a real tempo loss. The earliest you'd play it is probably turn 4.

You’re spending a card to remove one of your own minions lol

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03-15-2019 , 05:23 PM

#46019

DonkDonkDonkDonk

Goose

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 40,104

it's a copy of a minion

also can target opposing minions

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03-15-2019 , 05:43 PM

#46020

g-bebe

because robots are strong

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 22,860

I think that rogue card has way more game busting potential than the mage dragon. At least it has the potential to be way more annoying.

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03-15-2019 , 07:19 PM

#46021

prizminferno

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that card is toxic af lol at this game

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03-15-2019 , 07:36 PM

#46022

Paul D

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Originally Posted by jmakin

You’re spending a card to remove one of your own minions lol

You're not removing your own minion. You're shuffling a copy of it.

People don't play yetis on 4, so playing a 3 along side it isn't a super tempo loss. People are currently skipping turns with hunter winning, and it isn't even Rexxar carrying in all the games.

I think the card will see a lot of play.

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03-15-2019 , 07:55 PM

#46023

prizminferno

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the only saving grace is that it's a rogue card and they generally don't go infinite/extend fatigue in Standard

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03-15-2019 , 08:14 PM

#46024

Searix

NFL Swami Overlord

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,233

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Originally Posted by g-bebe

I think that rogue card has way more game busting potential than the mage dragon. At least it has the potential to be way more annoying.

togg's scheme seems like it has higher upside but also may suck

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Originally Posted by Paul D

I don't see it being a real tempo loss. The earliest you'd play it is probably turn 4.

it's actually a decent tempo loss:
It's -1 card early game - when you have 4-7 cards normally until turn 5 and is completely dead against aggro.
It's -1 mana early game playing the card
It's also dependent on having a card you want to use it on, which you wont always find early game

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03-15-2019 , 08:34 PM

#46025

Paul D

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Originally Posted by Searix

togg's scheme seems like it has higher upside but also may suck

it's actually a decent tempo loss:
It's -1 card early game - when you have 4-7 cards normally until turn 5 and is completely dead against aggro.
It's -1 mana early game playing the card
It's also dependent on having a card you want to use it on, which you wont always find early game

I don't know how you say all of this when Hunter right now is skipping turn three sometimes with Master's Call and flipping the game later.

Priests are skipping turns against aggro currently too and winning (usually by ressing Zilly five times).

Being perfectly mana efficient and playing the biggest minion each turn is like the ABC strat of folding anything below a pocket pair or AQ in poker. It works for the most part but it isn't always the optimal line.

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