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12-05-2018 , 04:40 PM

#45551

master3004

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,419

Zuljin secret Hunter is a lot of fun to play

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12-05-2018 , 05:46 PM

#45552

prizminferno

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Zul'jin has a win rate of over 60%, they had to know this was coming.

The worst downside of it is you Flanking your own wolf and make a new wolf. It's just a busted card. Awaiting the nerf.

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12-05-2018 , 06:15 PM

#45553

master3004

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,419

What do you expect the nerf to be? "Cast the last five spells you cast this game" instead of all spell cast?

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12-05-2018 , 06:51 PM

#45554

prizminferno

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Yeah I was thinking about that, I'm not sure how they even nerf it. Limiting the number is probably how.

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12-05-2018 , 06:55 PM

#45555

IHeartAsians

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,186

make it cost 11

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12-05-2018 , 07:30 PM

#45556

prizminferno

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20 cost, costs 1 less per spell you've cast this game up to (10)

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12-05-2018 , 09:32 PM

#45557

prizminferno

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Spell Hunter is like cheating

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12-05-2018 , 09:47 PM

#45558

g-bebe

because robots are strong

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 22,864

The DKs are meta/game defining. I don't necessarily hate that strategy but it is the way it is.

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12-05-2018 , 10:03 PM

#45559

prizminferno

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Zul'jin swings board states better than pre-nerf Yogg ainec. Especially if you just toss out Crushing Walls on 7 or 8 when you know you're gonna ZJ on 10. It's so dirty.

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12-06-2018 , 12:26 AM

#45560

g-bebe

because robots are strong

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 22,864

FLJ is everywhere. I've played like 75% mages.

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12-06-2018 , 12:32 AM

#45561

DonkDonkDonkDonk

Goose

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 40,114

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Originally Posted by g-bebe

FLJ is everywhere. I've played like 75% mages.

So much odd mage

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12-06-2018 , 12:58 AM

#45562

g-bebe

because robots are strong

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 22,864

I'm also genuinely not sure what is optimal, to Zuljin or to Rexxar first.

Zuljin obv gives you immediate board presence but it's effect essentially is dead against any sort of board clear in villains hand. I.e flamestrike, brawl reckless fury, dragon fury, so on. Whereas you want to get Rexxar out asap in most matches to generate big bodies but it essentially sucks to lose him to Zuljin in anything control.

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12-06-2018 , 07:04 AM

#45563

jmakin

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 30,120

Playing dragon/mech odd warrior. Tears everything apart so far, especially that janky as **** baku mage deck - why are people playing that? It's so bad, lmfao. It does good against aggro too.

Odd warrior is probably a force to be reckoned with. I could see it struggling with high insane value decks like cube lock/hunter - but honestly I feel I have TOO much removal (not to mention tempo) most games, maybe it could hang. A silence would be really nice.

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12-06-2018 , 07:07 AM

#45564

jmakin

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Originally Posted by g-bebe

The DKs are meta/game defining. I don't necessarily hate that strategy but it is the way it is.

They should be, imo. I love the DK's and lich king was the best expansion by far in this game. Power level off the charts but still a fairly balanced and fun meta.

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12-06-2018 , 07:10 AM

#45565

jmakin

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 30,120

idk why everyone's saying power level is low this expansion - I havent looked at even 25% of the cards yet and there are some ridiculously good neutrals and some probable meta defining legendaries.

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12-06-2018 , 11:26 AM

#45566

Paul D

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Originally Posted by g-bebe

Zuljin is preferable first since Rexxar is the value generator you need against some classes in a value match up. Aggro it's probably Rexxar first.

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12-06-2018 , 02:06 PM

#45567

prizminferno

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you want to ZJ first to refill and then Rexxar against control/grindy after. ZJ isnt for the hero power.

Odd warrior is good but if this Undatakah Druid becomes a real thing, and it appears it is, odd warrior is dumpstered. This new Druid deck is so far and away the most OP busted thing I've ever seen.

It's the normal taunt package + Astral Tiger + Hadronox + Undatakah. It goes infinite (Unda shuffles himself back in twice) and spawns taunts every single time. Odd warrior should have ~0% win rate against it sadly and it still has the druid package to handle aggro/other decks. Saw it played on many streams, very scared.

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12-06-2018 , 02:20 PM

#45568

prizminferno

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I think this is the start of it: https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/...hrattle-druid/

it probably needs some tuning, it's so stupid though. it's all over ladder already.

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12-06-2018 , 02:25 PM

#45569

DonkDonkDonkDonk

Goose

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 40,114

Haha **** druid

Always finds a way to break the game

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12-06-2018 , 02:59 PM

#45570

Bloobird

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**** druid forever

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12-06-2018 , 06:00 PM

#45571

Aceium

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Kingsbane seems really good.

It's super fun when you get to just chop down Lich Kings, Voidlords, maybe even a Tyrantus.

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12-06-2018 , 06:15 PM

#45572

prizminferno

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kingsbane with 2 more ways to draw weapon... busted

I love the new 5/5 armor dragon though.. that's about as balanced a HS card you can get

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12-06-2018 , 06:40 PM

#45573

Aceium

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But you take that balanced card and add 5 mana, 5 damage, and draw 5 cards then it's busted (partially because you play it on like turn 7).

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12-06-2018 , 06:59 PM

#45574

prizminferno

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ramp is definitely the problem

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12-06-2018 , 07:17 PM

#45575

jmakin

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 30,120

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Originally Posted by prizminferno

kingsbane with 2 more ways to draw weapon... busted

I love the new 5/5 armor dragon though.. that's about as balanced a HS card you can get

It’s a discounted shield maiden with the dragon tag, I think it’s pretty OP

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