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Old 01-15-2018, 07:01 AM   #43001
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If anyone is feeling a bit bored of HS ladder right now, and fancies playing something a bit off meta, I've reached legend this month (first time in a long time) with a combination of these two decks. Kingsbane Mill Rogue and OTK Lynessa Paladin.



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Old 01-15-2018, 10:04 AM   #43002
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Played against kingsbane mill rogue the other day, thought it was a fun looking deck. Just squeaked a win with Cubelock, but it was close.
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:19 PM   #43003
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Dog said on stream that he believes tempo rogue is the strongest right now (which is what I've thought for quite a few seasons). Very refreshing after hearing the monotone of "Raza is best" from every streamer. I could never figure out why the pro opinion strays so far from the stats. Sure, people suck and its a hard deck to pilot, but the disparity in results is too great to be explained simply by that. Razas winrate doesn't rise at legend, which should be telling. Even though the average legend player isn't that great, they should be able to extract more value from it than rank 25-5, right?

I really think that the streamers are overvaluing Raza because its a "thinking man's deck", and it happens to crush most of the other "thinking man decks". Yes, it is super strong, but its inherently less consistent than rougue because of the singleton nature of it, and it has plenty of losses where either combo card is in the bottom 5-10. It has its omegalul draw of raza on 5, anduin on 8, but rogue has keleseth on 2 and that is much more likely to happen.
Agreed with this. I’d really like to see a win rate breakdown of tempo rogue between prince/no prince/prince + shadowstep on 2. I honestly would not be surprised if all 3 were positive win rates, with prince + shadowstep being a win rate over 80%. Which is absolutely absurd for something decided at the mulligan.

But again, so much of keleseth’s power is actually patches. **** that card to infinity.
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:27 PM   #43004
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Toast said that playing Keleseth on 2 ups your chances to win the game by 10%.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:26 PM   #43005
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can anyone explain to me what is the win condition of, uh, weasel priest? You just shuffle a bunch of weasels into your opponent's deck, cant see how that wins you any game.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:40 AM   #43006
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The main deck it targets is Raza priest, and it destroys the deck's win condition by deactivating Raza. Versus tempo decks, it tries to hang on with small deathrattle minions until psychic scream, then drop Amara to heal to 40. From then on, your opponent is running a deck that doesnt have much, if any, card draw, so he's topdecking, and top decking weasels. You then grind out the game with Anduin DK & nzoth.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:04 PM   #43007
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thanks, I still think that there are easier ways to counter razakus
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:09 PM   #43008
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I built a control dragon priest, been playing it the last couple days. How come no one else is doing this? There are so many different dragon priest decks, but 0 control ones that I’ve seen, yet the 2 new dragon cards priest got this xpac are awesome control tools. This deck feels really good, only thing it hard core loses to is jade Druid. Can beat raza priest, though it’s unfavored, but is favored over warlock control decks. Absolutely ****s on tempo decks. I let a paladin draw 8 cards with divine favor and he didn’t even come close to killing me. Here’s the list. Thoughts?

### Control dragon
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
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# 1x (0) Circle of Healing
# 2x (1) Northshire Cleric
# 2x (1) Pint-Size Potion
# 1x (1) Potion of Madness
# 2x (1) Power Word: Shield
# 2x (2) Netherspite Historian
# 1x (2) Wild Pyromancer
# 1x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 2x (3) Shadow Word: Death
# 2x (3) Twilight Acolyte
# 2x (4) Duskbreaker
# 1x (4) Greater Healing Potion
# 2x (4) Shadow Word: Horror
# 2x (5) Drakonid Operative
# 1x (5) Kabal Songstealer
# 2x (6) Cabal Shadow Priest
# 1x (6) Dragonfire Potion
# 1x (8) Primordial Drake
# 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin
# 1x (9) Ysera
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

Maybe shadow visions if I cut the pyro package?
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:53 AM   #43009
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What about Lyra instead of acolyte of pain ?
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:53 AM   #43010
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I called the rogue thing week 1!
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:07 PM   #43011
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### Big Dragon Priest
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
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# 2x (0) Circle of Healing
# 1x (0) Silence
# 2x (1) Pint-Size Potion
# 2x (2) Embrace the Shadow
# 2x (2) Shadow Visions
# 2x (3) Shadow Word: Death
# 1x (4) Barnes
# 2x (4) Eternal Servitude
# 2x (4) Shadow Word: Horror
# 2x (6) Dragonfire Potion
# 2x (6) Shadow Essence
# 1x (7) Lesser Diamond Spellstone
# 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin
# 2x (9) Dragonhatcher
# 2x (9) Sleepy Dragon
# 1x (9) Ysera
# 1x (10) Deathwing
# 1x (10) Deathwing, Dragonlord
# 1x (10) Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound
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8-1 with this deck so far, turns out sleepy dragon is really, really good against aggro turn 4 and resurrected multiple times
Sleepy dragon actually is amazing against aggro if you can cheat it out and they don't have a hard counter if you wanted a deck that uses it
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:20 PM   #43012
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Have tweaked the list a bit. I was getting lucky vs. raza priest, that matchup is much worse than I thought. Added the rats to make it winnable. Dropped the silence+circle package, added shadow visions for consistency and changed the primordial drake to book wyrm because I wanted to add a shadow word pain but couldnt fit it in.

List feels close to optimized now. Just destroys aggro. Biggest problem the deck has are the random decks like dead mans warrior and kingsbane rogue that show up from time to time. They are an auto loss and it feels bad when you run into them.
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:20 AM   #43013
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jesus christ the hearthstone world cup day 1 is already nuts

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Old 01-19-2018, 05:50 AM   #43014
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I had Kolento as my pick for the champion... well, that was quick
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:00 AM   #43015
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jesus christ the hearthstone world cup day 1 is already nuts

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Old 01-19-2018, 11:46 AM   #43016
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Yea, rogue definitely seems like the deck that’s knocking people out of this tourney.
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Old 01-20-2018, 02:45 AM   #43017
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Sleepy dragon actually is amazing against aggro if you can cheat it out and they don't have a hard counter if you wanted a deck that uses it
queued this up and got back to back Kingsbane Rogue to start, lol got crushed 2x.
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Old 01-20-2018, 02:47 AM   #43018
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mind you it does get some pretty easy wins.

But just brutally inconsistent. If you don't have Barnes/Shadow Essence how do you possibly win? you'll just have a mix of somewhat good removal and unplayable minions.

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Old 01-20-2018, 03:22 AM   #43019
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1-8 with it, heh. That was some ill advised dust spending.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:43 AM   #43020
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Docpwn’s gets reverse swept by jasonzhou with doc playing tempo rogue after jasonzhou did the same thing to purple. Jasonzhou is a good player but not as good as others and lucky as **** jfc.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:33 AM   #43021
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Aw damn i was pulling for docpwn.

Jasonzhou is pretty good in my opinion. He brought priest last year and got top 8, right? When NO ONE was playing priest.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:03 AM   #43022
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he's obviously pretty good--he's the only guy ever to make the final 4 twice at the HWC but my god he runs like god at times. he clearly makes some big mistakes and top decks a LOT.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:31 AM   #43023
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Sinto/Frozen match especially the last few games were nuts.

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Old 01-20-2018, 02:05 PM   #43024
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I took ShtanUdachi so great success.
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Old 01-20-2018, 02:58 PM   #43025
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Purple looked like he was throwing the game vs shtan although his hands ****ing sucked. Surrender played the last match with priest crazy well vs jade druid. Can’t wait till both those stupid decks are gone.
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