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08-16-2017 , 03:55 PM
The deck has no real weaknesses. Its worst matchup being itself is obscene.

Last edited by jmakin; 08-16-2017 at 04:04 PM.
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08-16-2017 , 03:59 PM
It's ****ing stupid. UI literally replaced feral rage AND auctioneer.
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08-16-2017 , 04:44 PM
Think a good exodia player beats it at a decent clip but that deck is really hard to pilot so obv druid is a major favourite on average
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08-16-2017 , 05:00 PM
That's actually what I'm working on right now.

The problem is exodias matchups vs aggro can be kind of abysmal
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08-16-2017 , 05:10 PM
Count me in the camp that says "**** everything" pretty quickly. I didn't open a single Deathknight legendary on any server and after playing across the board with a bunch of classes it appears every deathknight is op as ****. Which puts me at a massive disadvantage, since I need like 30k more dust across the board to enjoy every class. Really stupid.
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08-16-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Abysmal
Think a good exodia player beats it at a decent clip but that deck is really hard to pilot so obv druid is a major favourite on average
It's not that hard anymore. Simu-whatever made it a lot easier and literally no one is running rats.
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08-16-2017 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
That's actually what I'm working on right now.

The problem is exodias matchups vs aggro can be kind of abysmal
Aggro plus all paladins make it tough. Maybe exodia paladin can be a thing. That would be fun.
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08-16-2017 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
Count me in the camp that says "**** everything" pretty quickly. I didn't open a single Deathknight legendary on any server and after playing across the board with a bunch of classes it appears every deathknight is op as ****. Which puts me at a massive disadvantage, since I need like 30k more dust across the board to enjoy every class. Really stupid.
old aggro druid works without much investment

so does secret mage
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08-16-2017 , 05:16 PM
Even that deck is running Malfurion the Pestilent.
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08-16-2017 , 05:20 PM
Exodia Pally does exist--if that just means OTK.

Basically it requires Auctioneer Beardo + Uther. You play Buggly Bully and you attempt get 1 or 2 coins.

Play Uther a few turns before. Play Hero Power (2 mana) + Play Beardo--3 mana--play a coin/1 mana spell (secret) (0 or 1 mana)+play hero power (2 mana)+play another coin+hero power (2 mana)+ play 1 mana spell + hero power (2 mana)--you need coins or 11 or 12 mana to do it.
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08-16-2017 , 05:23 PM
As I said before these DKs are very similar to Justicar but 7 times more expensive since you get 1 for free per server. Game is harder to win F2P; basically early on most people who aren't wiling to spend are stuck with 1 or maybe 2 DKs and forced to play that 1 class till they can afford more DKs.
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08-16-2017 , 05:24 PM
My DK priest is doing good against Jade druid, I do run the card that gets rid of 1 Mana spells though. I've beat a few in fatigue which is extra satisfying and also makes their UI work against them sometimes.
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08-16-2017 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
Even that deck is running Malfurion the Pestilent.
you don't need it
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08-16-2017 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
Exodia Pally does exist--if that just means OTK.

Basically it requires Auctioneer Beardo + Uther. You play Buggly Bully and you attempt get 1 or 2 coins.

Play Uther a few turns before. Play Hero Power (2 mana) + Play Beardo--3 mana--play a coin/1 mana spell (secret) (0 or 1 mana)+play hero power (2 mana)+play another coin+hero power (2 mana)+ play 1 mana spell + hero power (2 mana)--you need coins or 11 or 12 mana to do it.
3 coins is lethal with beardo without anything on board.
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08-16-2017 , 05:31 PM
So is two with a 1 mana spell which is probably the most common way. Blizz should have given them tomb pillager this exp just to make it playable.

Last edited by Abysmal; 08-16-2017 at 05:41 PM.
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08-16-2017 , 05:35 PM
You can have 2 coins + 1 secret as well right at 10 mana?

HP + Beardo + coin +HP + coin + HP + coin or secret + HP
10-2-3+1-2+1-2+(-1 or +1)-2 should get you there as well right?
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08-16-2017 , 05:38 PM
Yeah you don't need Malfurion in aggro druid. I've been running a pretty simple one today at pretty **** ranks and running most decks over.

Big Priest is fun but isn't as good at **** ranks vs aggro decks. I'm probably also not playing it well. Struggled early on with controlling my opponents especially if they had a board (token shaman tore me up even after clears). I laughed at how many times barnes pulled the 4/9 as a 1/1 or the 6 mana create 5/5 version of a card pulled barnes.

Hilarious win today in arena-going for 5-1; pulled Lich King from 1/4 taunt guy. Play Lich King; my opponent has 10/10 shaman taunt on the board (which he just pulled after playing the 5/5 DR the turn before). I get the 2 mana spell that kills a minion and hits you in the face. i have 4 guys on board, he devolves FTW--I have 18 health--i get 2 1/1s which he ignores; i get 2 taunts and he has 6 health. bittertide hydra hit twice FTW. he obviously makes 2 greedy mistakes on the evolve and not trading of course I luck box the 1 lich king spell that ended him.
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08-16-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
As I said before these DKs are very similar to Justicar but 7 times more expensive since you get 1 for free per server. Game is harder to win F2P; basically early on most people who aren't wiling to spend are stuck with 1 or maybe 2 DKs and forced to play that 1 class till they can afford more DKs.
wait what you get a DK free? please repeat that?
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08-16-2017 , 05:54 PM
yeah play the adventure prelogue for TFT. you get 1 free one--i got the priest one on both my accounts. i have malfurion/FL Jaina/Uther/Anduin on my pay account (50 packs + 50 others I had packs + coins for).
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08-16-2017 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
wait what you get a DK free? please repeat that?
From beating the prologue solo mission.
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08-16-2017 , 06:14 PM
Saw someone trying exodia pally with brewmasters
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08-16-2017 , 06:21 PM
There's also an OTK/mill quest druid with the hogrider 6/6 that gets charge if your opponent has over 6 cards in hand and brews.
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08-16-2017 , 06:40 PM
1. I'm with feedthebeast, the real problem with druid right now is spreading plague. Jade Druid used to be the ultimate anti-control deck that held its own vs. aggro because it could survive with ramp/Scales/Feral Rage/Tar Creepers. Now it just crushes everything because the number of cheap taunts (Krypt Lord, Druid of the Swarm also) and armor means it can always stall at any point in the game.

2. Conventional wisdom used to say Miracle Rogue was in its best spot when meta is unsettled. Right now I think Miracle Rogue is playable but not really strong, so if stronger versions of decks emerge (still think control warrior and Nzoth paladin are going to be strong) it may be in a bad spot. I think I've become a good rogue player over the past 4 months or so, and I think the tempo-y decks are strong atm.

3. I can't imagine a more miserable meta than one dominated by druids/big priest/exodia mage. I guess all you guys who wanted control decks to rule are happy now?
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08-16-2017 , 06:48 PM
I was playing tempo/ele rogue and had vilespine and plague scientist in hand and way ahead on board. Opponent who had just ramped into more ramp plays plague for 5 minions and then plague + shield guy for another 4 minions the next turn. If they had just played a single big taunt, like they used to, I'd win 100% of the time. It's bothersome that this was hard for blizzard to figure out. Compare the card to force of nature.... at best you're getting 6/6 of stats. This card costs the same and places 6 points of stats on each minion and has huge upside with cheap buffs.
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08-16-2017 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bixby snyder
I dunno if youd call it miracle but Trump was running a dk list with vanish, I tried it for a night and vanish is borderline mvp. After you dk / stealth you can get these nifty little turns like swash swash vanish swash swash arcane arcane arcane coin edwin or other insanity.

I guess it's kinda miracle because it's sherazin arcanes and gadget based but also no cold blood, questing, leeroy, and none of the maly package obv.
Any deck that runs Auctioneer is a miracle deck essentially.
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