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Pretty confident the quest is crap. I think you need to play like 26 one drops. That is one ****ty deck. You skip turn 1 to play your quest. Turn 3-4-5 you're just getting steamrolled. Then turn 6 you get an 8/8. Then you're living off the top with a deck full of raptors.

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

its pretty incredible that the worst metas were ruined because of OP 1 drops (undertaker, trogg, buccaneer/patches) and now they think it could be a good idea to make a quest over playing 15 1 drops in the least interactive class already

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Originally Posted by Bremen

The best 1 drops are historically quite good, but the fifth best? Let alone the 15th... and as I noted originally you're less likely to have a good follow-up because half your deck is 1-drops and you lost a card from your opening hand playing the quest, which also means you couldn't even drop your OP 1-drop on 1.

Ok, either I'm misunderstanding you guys, or you guys are confused.

First off, why would you need to run 26 1 drops in order to complete a "Play seven 1 drop minions" quest? Do you need to run 26 deathrattle minions in the Priest quest?

It's not play 15 1 drop minions. It's play seven 1 drop minions. So I'm not sure where this discussion of 15 1 drops is coming from.

Also worth noting that the new Small Raptor 1 drop generates another 1 drop on deathrattle, so that is 2 1 drop minions in one card.

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04-01-2017 , 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JustASpectator

It's not play 15 1 drop minions. It's play seven 1 drop minions. So I'm not sure where this discussion of 15 1 drops is coming from.

If you only have 7 in your deck, if the last card is a 1-drop you're unlikely to complete the quest. So to complete the quest in any reasonable number of turns you need far more than 7 in the deck.

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04-01-2017 , 03:48 PM

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baudib1

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The mage quest is so easy to complete and has so many good possible synergies with Antonidas, Babbling Book, Tome, Mukla, Burgly Bully; I think control mage Time Warp is going to be a real thing.

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04-01-2017 , 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bremen

If you only have 7 in your deck, if the last card is a 1-drop you're unlikely to complete the quest. So to complete the quest in any reasonable number of turns you need far more than 7 in the deck.

Obviously, but you certainly don't need to play a deck that has 26 1 drops in it (as was asserted earlier) to be able to complete the quest consistently early, I'm assuming you would agree with that.

Also, assuming the talk about 15 1 drops simply means you'll be playing a Hunter Quest deck that contains 15 1 drops, it still isn't relevant what the 15th best 1 drop is, since a hunter quest deck obv won't be a Reno deck, so you'll be playing 2x the top 7 non-Patches 1 drops plus Patches.

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04-01-2017 , 04:30 PM

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yes a deck that probably needs at least 15 1 drops

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04-01-2017 , 05:20 PM

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bgordon

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Originally Posted by JustASpectator

Going all in lets you cast the payoff on turn 5 or 6

If you have 15 one drops, you're mostly casting it on turn 8, 9 or 10.

Both decks are terrible before you complete the quest.

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04-01-2017 , 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bgordon

Going all in lets you cast the payoff on turn 5 or 6

If you have 15 one drops, you're mostly casting it on turn 8, 9 or 10.

Both decks are terrible before you complete the quest.

Gotcha.

But I think there are varying levels of "terrible" that these Hunter Quest decks will be. I predict there will be some refined Hunter Quest deck that will be high ladder competitive.

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04-01-2017 , 05:36 PM

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Bremen

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The Hunter Dream is to play Hemet and then complete the quest. Somehow I don't see that being consistent, at all.

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04-01-2017 , 05:43 PM

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Kirbynator

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waitwut

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04-01-2017 , 05:54 PM

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Bremen

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You remove your deck thats full of crappy one drops and replace it with 15 3/2 1-drops that also draw a card.

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04-01-2017 , 06:34 PM

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Namath12

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do piranhas launched from launcher launcher count toward the quest?

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04-01-2017 , 06:36 PM

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DonkDonkDonkDonk

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Originally Posted by Namath12

do piranhas launched from launcher launcher count toward the quest?

No, it's "play" not "summon"

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04-01-2017 , 07:05 PM

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baudib1

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Pirate Warrior ran Zoo out of existence, and this hunter deck sounds like a bad version of zoo.

Pass turn 1, play a bunch of 1 drops...how does that outrace PW?

Granted, if this new meta destroys PW, then Hunter becomes the new cancer deck.

Edit: Zoo has better than average 1-drops, too.

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04-01-2017 , 07:15 PM

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donjonnie

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No shaman was mainly what held zoo back. Zoo is fine against pw

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04-01-2017 , 08:00 PM

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Kirbynator

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oh another thing; i cant imagine stampede not being ultra good with the hunter quest.

Without that its probably ****... with it...who knows

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No shaman was mainly what held zoo back. Zoo is fine against pw

control warrior used to be really good against zoo though, we could see that coming back.

Also power overwhelming is often what kept zoo going through taunts.

Warlocks basically got nerfed, not sure what they could come up with to rival

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Originally Posted by Bremen

You remove your deck thats full of crappy one drops and replace it with 15 3/2 1-drops that also draw a card.

right lol, was reading it the other way

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04-01-2017 , 08:20 PM

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baudib1

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I predict Barnabus druid and Jade druid will continue to keep fatigue warrior dead and buried.

Taunt Warrior might be good though.

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04-01-2017 , 08:24 PM

#38717

Kirbynator

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eh theyre both control warrior imo.

I cant get over how OP sulfuras is though, lol.

Keep them jades coming right back! Die Jades!

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04-02-2017 , 02:04 AM

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Princess Elsa

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WTF Time Warp, sickest card ever

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04-02-2017 , 04:29 AM

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BobboFitos

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Originally Posted by donjonnie

No shaman was mainly what held zoo back. Zoo is fine against pw

Ya shamans with their value cards, maelstrom portals, and weapon removal crush zoo.

think zoo also loses to pw but it's at least competitive

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04-02-2017 , 05:55 AM

#38720

Kangal_

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Time warp seems pretty broken, no? The quest shouldn't be too difficult to achieve, and then timewarp+double arcane giant (will be max 3 mana by this point), pass, Alexstraza, GG?

Anyone know if the Coin counts towards this quest completion?

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04-02-2017 , 07:25 AM

#38721

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one big difference with timewarp (and the ****ty rogue one, rip rogue) is that you actually have to do two actions to trigger it.

You cant just "make" or draw those cards and the quest's done, you have to play/cast them after producing them

But mage should have enough of cycle+stall to be able to get it done and make a sick combo

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04-02-2017 , 07:47 AM

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Actually I think it was all the AoEs and Dragon Priest in Gadgetzan that killed Zoo. Spirit Claws/Maelstrom were like invented to beat Zoo, but Discardlock was pretty strong in the Shamanstone era.

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04-02-2017 , 08:59 AM

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gder

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Played my last arena before JUG and got pissed so retired at 0-2. First time ever retiring. Opened a golden white eyes, might be good in the new elemental shaman meta, if not still a pretty sick last msg pack.

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04-02-2017 , 12:07 PM

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baudib1

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To be filed under "No one can predict meta": Sjow/Feno think Paladin will be great. Forsen loves the new priest cards.

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04-02-2017 , 12:11 PM

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buffyslayer1

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I heard somewhere random might have been reddit. That death rattle priest was the strongest deck or something during testing.
Who knows what will be good and not, a lot of the streamer get it badly wrong.
I recall kripp saying STB was bad might make rogue and that's about it and trump rating all the goons cards really highly. It so hard to tell until the meta gets going.

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