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11-22-2016 , 06:45 PM
Using the usual 1 card from hand = 1 mana conversion

Jade Spirit 4 mana 2/3, you're paying about 2.5 mana for the Jade Golem

Jade Lightning 4 mana deal 4 damage, you're paying about 1 mana for the Golem

Aya Blackpaw 5/3 legendary, you're paying about 3.25 for two Golems, one of which is delayed by deathrattle

Jade Blossom 3 mana wild growth, you're paying probably like .75 for the Golem. Wild Growth is OP, Wild Growth that you can't play before you get to than 3 mana is not quite as OP.

Jade Shurikan uh I dunno, nobody's gonna play the Rogue version of this deck so whatever

Looks to me like Jade Lightning and Jade Blossom are very badly overpowered
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11-22-2016 , 06:52 PM
I was just thinking, man, this could be the best meta ever to play mill rogue in. I love me some mill rogue.

Now, not so much.
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11-22-2016 , 06:57 PM
Jade Swarmer 2 mana 1/1 stealth I think you're paying about 2 mana for the Golem.

These cards are kinda all over the place. When you did this for the C'Thun buffers, the cost you were paying for the buff was very consistent.
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11-22-2016 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mastodon
I was just thinking, man, this could be the best meta ever to play mill rogue in. I love me some mill rogue.

Now, not so much.
I'm still imagining Jade Idol has a rogue card, with the shuffle three effect being activated upon combo
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11-22-2016 , 08:14 PM
Weird thing just happened. I'm sitting at the bar playing on my phone and get the standard thrice-hourly "You have been disconnected from Lagstone, reconnecting.........." but it never reconnects and ldo locks up my phone so I turn it off and back on. I log back in and I...won the game? Never saw that before. I had more health than my opponent so maybe it happened to him as well?
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11-22-2016 , 09:04 PM
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11-22-2016 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
I love how excited people get before each expansion that FINALLY we'll get a control meta, and Blizzard baits the carrot and everyone bites then its like butnahhhh heres some jade golem/mysterious challenger/4 mana 7/7
still a lot more interesting than anything face related.

Also i think its the kind of card that will be very overpowered and very obvious if they are indeed too strong, which may force a fast nerf (maybe they jades would start 0/0 instead of 1/1?) imo
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11-22-2016 , 09:37 PM
is there a scenario where u can gang up an OP neutral jade golem battlecry minion?

could arguably be stronger than killing by fatigue (with brann and all)


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* at least druids dont have vanish/any good aoe to clear the minions to counter the "milling"

Last edited by Kirbynator; 11-22-2016 at 09:47 PM.
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11-22-2016 , 09:51 PM
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11-22-2016 , 11:35 PM
Thijs: "They all say 'For Doomhammer!' but none of them play Doomhammer."
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11-23-2016 , 12:15 AM
"For spirit claws!"
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11-23-2016 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
Currently at rank 7 from playing a mix of 50% discardlock, 40% pirate warrior this month.

Debating if I should just grind shaman the rest of the way.
Only took 4 days but I got to rank 6...lol

I actually hadn't been grinding that much the past few days. I've been playing since July and I've hit a higher chest the past 4 months straight, so that's something I suppose.

I've pretty much stuck with zoo; I probably have more wins with Pirates than any other deck but zoo feels stronger and is only slightly less fun.

I am experimenting with a couple of Shaman decks but they're not really fun at all.
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11-23-2016 , 08:04 AM
Reyand was specifcally talking about Blizzard basically building precanned decks and thrusting them in the meta a few months ago in a video where he's talking about Beast Druid, in regards Menagerie Warden/Enchanted Raven, how it was lazy design, I tend to agree.

That's the beauty of a card like Reno, when Blizzard created it they likely had no idea the variety of decks people would try.

We need way more cards that just have interesting properties and effects and allow players to come up with creative ways to build decks to exploit it. Easier said than done I'm sure.

Dumping a ton of cards (particularly powerful ones) that very clearly all fall within the same family and clearly synergize with each other sorta kills a huge aspect of fun in the game.

Just looking at the Old God cards, cards like Y'Shaarj, Yogg, and even NZoth to an extent, spurred a lot of interesting decks across classes, whereas CThun decks were almost all cookie cutter and telegraphed.
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11-23-2016 , 10:01 AM
does it even matter? every archetype that is any good will eventually end up with lists sharing 28+ cards with each other
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11-23-2016 , 10:56 AM
Exactly.

Competitive hearthstone isn't about creativity. It's about min-maxing a closed system.
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11-23-2016 , 12:33 PM
just found out you can earn gold portrait stuff in wild. i have had 475 druid wins on NA for like 3 months. time to wrap that up!
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11-23-2016 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
just found out you can earn gold portrait stuff in wild. i have had 475 druid wins on NA for like 3 months. time to wrap that up!
What's so much better about druid in wild?
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11-23-2016 , 01:37 PM
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What's so much better about druid in wild?
Probably just easier getting 25 wins starting at rank 25 than whatever rank bobbo is in standard.
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11-24-2016 , 12:09 AM
I almost pulled off the dream

Thistle tea into yogg, but he conceded after the first one cast call of the wild into anyfin is possible into conceal
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11-24-2016 , 02:05 AM
2 cards for shaman no one mentioned here

Call in the Finishers

4 mana summon 4 1/1 murlocs

that won't see play except in the funnest of fun decks, but, ok cool

Jinyu Waterspeaker

4 mana 3/6
Overload 1

Battlecry: Restore 6 health

I think it's pretty good. I think this fits into an Evolve deck more than MR or Control.
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11-24-2016 , 02:18 AM
its a bad evolve card tho

I'd argue it's better than antique healbot.

Control shaman could definitely be a thing imo, they wreck nzoth decks.

unless LOL_JADE_GOLEMS ruin everything
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11-24-2016 , 02:22 AM
I don't think Control Shaman needs healing.
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11-24-2016 , 02:27 AM
the way this expansion is going you,re right
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11-24-2016 , 10:58 AM
Second shaman card seems great for a control or Reno shaman.
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11-24-2016 , 11:55 AM
Waterspeaker is very good. Very very good.
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