It's not an OTK then and token druid shouldn't be referred to as one. OTK is strictly 30+ from hand.

mostly agree with paul for once

I'll take these treants over the old force of nature savage roar treants lol

yeah, this

flood decks w/ burst =/= OTK

the problem is when they have 6 mana you could legit be dead at any point. you can't "play around it" so don't even bother saying that.

Well at least something good came out of it.

Has anyone else had this happen to them with Ratham? Seems like a bug:

Every time I've played him when I had 2 minions in hand (is zoo so my hand size isn't that big) I get a dupe legendaries...so two more rathams, two Leeroys, two Cho's...I never get dupes in my deck though is just when I have two cards in hand.

Yeah I'm for once in the Paul camp over this one, lol. He's right on this topic

Also I hadn't read the debate since I just came in here to ask about the but a bunch of tokens attacking you is not an OTK lmao.

Anyway, who is here is sick of Walking Fountain OTK'ing you when you're at 8 health?

Token Druid is an OTB deck.

One Turn Beatdown

World championship finale was a straight troll. Rafaam in zoo pulls multiple crazy legendaries including elysiana twice.

Hmmm I'm just 2 off golden druid, I'll keep playing until i get it

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Azalina but yeah, it was a clown fiesta

made a new mage deck, seems pretty good 13-5 at low legend (which still has a good deal of meta decks)



### Antonidas Giant Mage
# Class: Mage
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Elemental Evocation
# 2x (1) Magic Trick
# 2x (1) Mirror Image
# 2x (1) Ray of Frost
# 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# 2x (2) Frostbolt
# 1x (2) Khadgar
# 2x (2) Mana Cyclone
# 1x (2) Research Project
# 2x (2) Sorcerer's Apprentice
# 1x (2) Sunfury Protector
# 2x (3) Arcane Intellect
# 2x (3) Conjurer's Calling
# 2x (3) Frost Nova
# 1x (3) Messenger Raven
# 1x (4) Archmage Vargoth
# 1x (4) Sandbinder
# 1x (7) Archmage Antonidas
# 2x (12) Mountain Giant
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

Win conditions:
1) giants (duh)
2) sorc apprentice + antonidas then play 2x magic trick, 4x ray of frost, 2x mirror image (and 2x elemental evocation) for free to get 4-10 fireballs. Frost nova + mirror image means he often wins a few turns
3) sorc apprentice + mana cyclone for the same combo above

Bloodmage thalnos/Research Project first cuts, 2nd sandbinder isnt bad with 4 key elementals

Got my dad legend tonight, I'll take it after a few months off and limited play time

Been playing the vs mech paladin list, it's a blast and ****s on token druid, strangely enough, which is nice. I don't think the people I played knew how to navigate paladin secrets which was also nice. And no one other than shaman was running silence which wrecks this deck.

lucked into facing trump with the deck if he's still here

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/418274504?t=04h24m40s

Summary:
Bad starting hand into lucky turn 4 sandbinder conj calling taunt and then lucky again he didnt have hellfire, but was a fun game

Predictably wrong with my predictions

If I were to do the list today it'd look something like this

1. Waggle Pick
2. EVIL Miscreant
3. Conjurer's Calling
4. Magic Carpet
5. EVIL Genius
6. Underbelly Angler
7. Hench Clan Burgler
8. Acornbearer
9. Dreamway Guardians
10. Walking Fountain

I had Rogue high but not high enough, it's by far #1. I was way too low on Mage, I should have known zoo was still gonna be very good, it always is. I just didn't grasp how incredible lackeys would be, they are so damn good!

I am glad I got secret pally sucking right though.

I think you mean Azalina. There were no Elysianas

Is rogue really that OP? Vicious Syndicate has it as far and away#1 deck, but lackey rogue just doesn't seem THAT great.

it's not, it's waggle pick doing 8-12+ for 4 and enabling 12 damage leeroy

honestly lackeys could be dropped but is an ok tempo play

the top pros seem to think nerfs are coming to rogue/warrior and probably Conj Calling. Donais has been asking about certain cards in many pros' chats.

i can see it happening, but can confidently say mage is dead without conj calling. It's already a bottom tier 2 deck

Man if they nerf Conj Calling I want a refund on my Khadgar too.

You can just shamelessly smack face with that deck and win more often than not

I had a game against a warrior and i got a super bad start and he was already at 50 health.

So i prep’d + myra + chef nomi just praying on drawing nomi and him not having a brawl and i won on the spot lol.

That isnt fun.

Quick rise of shadows mage card review (been playing almost only mage for last month):

Magic Trick - 4/5 pretty good in small mage
Ray of Frost - 4/5 also pretty good in small mage and outside allowing you 2 opportunities to shut down an enemy minion until you can deal with it. Also surprisingly good with frost nova
Khadgar - 3/5 this may surprise people but often he's just win more. Too often he's just too slow
Magic Dart Frog - 1/5 among worst cards in xpac. Needs a 2/3 body at a minimum
Mana Cyclone - 4/5 fun card and semi win condition, unfortunately limited to the small mage archetype like magic trick
Conj Calling - 5/5 with giants, 4.5/5 if giants get nerfed
Messenger Raven - 4/5 it's rare to get something bad from this while you can often get something you want at any stage of the game
Kirin Tor Tricaster - 2/5 a terrible body means it has to be comboed which means earliest you can play this is turn 7 with arcane explosion
Power of Creation - 3/5 Man this is slow, sometimes it highrolls and pairs well with khadgar but again, that means it's a dead card against rogue and token majority of the time
Kalecgos - 3/5 fun card and pretty strong against slow decks but like PoC and khadgar largely a dead card against rogue/token. Also makes for a really good Conj Calling target