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07-03-2015 , 07:17 PM
Not hero powering on turn 2 when I had no other play has won me a lot of games! And against GP often attacking is incorrect when it will put them below 30 health and they have a small board.
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07-09-2015 , 06:38 PM
Control Warrior is still good. I got a 5 win quest so I jumped in to Ranked (@13). Made quick work of 2 Face Hunters. Then beat out 2 Patron Warriors. For my 5th and final game I narrowly won out against a FACE WARRIOR. He hit me in the face with Gorehowl twice, but even a YOLO Rag left me with 1 HP and lethal on board. It's good to be in the right place at the right time and tear up the meta with good matchups and good draws.
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07-09-2015 , 08:41 PM
I made 2 changes to that deck I was playing earlier, not sure if better or not yet. I took out Sylvanas and Brawl for Ragnaros and Whirlwind. Both of them have helped win me games where the others I didn't feel were doing it so far, but it doesn't mean anything with such a sample, and all that. I thought I needed Ragnaros to make up for not having Grommash, and figured I could get away with another huge drop. Brawl is just super inconsistent. Whirlwind has me doing really a lot better aggro and Paladin.
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07-10-2015 , 06:13 AM
Brawl is inconsistent but a must against certain decks. You'll have serious trouble winning vs Grimm and Zoo without brawl.
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09-04-2015 , 09:07 PM
As a 500 win ctrl war, I am confident in saying bash is better than shield block, at least 60% of the time every time.*

*in the current meta blah blah blah
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09-04-2015 , 09:49 PM
I think with Varian its def better, since you dont need the additional card cycle. I do like Bash.
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09-05-2015 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wombat4hire
As a 500 win ctrl war, I am confident in saying bash is better than shield block, at least 60% of the time every time.*

*in the current meta blah blah blah
I've seen bash and block both used in decks.
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09-05-2015 , 04:49 PM
I play both. they are completely different cards in the deck to serve completely different functions.
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09-11-2015 , 01:19 PM
I've dropped Varian from my Control Warrior, a lot of hype over that card but I don't think its that good.

A win more card like kel thuzad, there's very rarely a great board state for him to drop down and losing battlecry effects can really lose the game for a control warrior.

I can't imagine the game going long enough against aggro to play it given that you can't use removal or armor up on the same turn and against control usually they'll have a brawl or shadowflame or another board clear and you lose.

put Nefarian back in and it seems to do better.
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09-11-2015 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk
I've dropped Varian from my Control Warrior, a lot of hype over that card but I don't think its that good.

A win more card like kel thuzad, there's very rarely a great board state for him to drop down and losing battlecry effects can really lose the game for a control warrior.

I can't imagine the game going long enough against aggro to play it given that you can't use removal or armor up on the same turn and against control usually they'll have a brawl or shadowflame or another board clear and you lose.

put Nefarian back in and it seems to do better.
I took out the battlecry cards and included more taunt and end of turn effects (ysera/rag/belcher/sen'jin/etc)
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09-11-2015 , 03:52 PM
I've certainly lost at least few games to a Control Warrior they had no business winning (ahead on board/cards/life) just because they RNG'd crazy with Varian. Not sure how good he is, but def wasn't win more in at least a few games I remember.
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09-11-2015 , 08:21 PM
He's not win more. He's more like another win condition.

I haven't been terribly successful with Control Warrior this season. I don't think I'm teched for the meta particularly well. Think I need to add Revenge, or an Unstable Ghoul even.
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09-11-2015 , 09:29 PM
I'm still unsure on Varian, obviously I understand the value, but it just seems like it's too inconsistent and too slow vs aggro to be playable.

yeah i teched in revenge, I'm actually doing OK against paladin even, with double brawl, baron, harrison and revenge.

I love Bash, and am considering putting 2 of in my deck, and only running one acolyte, though I'm not sure.

I'm not even sure whether I need Nefarian, it's good vs control but very slow vs aggro. Ragnaros seems like it could work better, I dunno.

This is my deck right now:



+ysera and nefarian.

Doing pretty well with it so far, though relatively small sample since i switched from dragon warrior.
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09-11-2015 , 10:33 PM
Ysera is way slower than Varian, so I don't think that argument works. I really need to craft Baron Gedden next. That card seems perfect with all the Paladins out there.
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09-11-2015 , 10:45 PM
I'm not going to cut Ysera though because he's too good, also he's the best card to get off Varian anyway.
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09-12-2015 , 11:20 AM
She*
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10-20-2015 , 07:32 PM
I'm thinking about Control Warrior post-patron.

If paladin is gonna resurge into the meta then control warrior is obviously not a great deck to play. However, other than all types of paladin it seems like it's in a good spot. Face hunters are making a comeback, plus decks like freeze mage and priest seem to be played, at least from what I've been seeing. Zoo is another deck which i think control warrior is favoured.


In my opinion Justicar is just insane in control warrior and has made the deck a lot stronger.

I've made a few alterations to my deck hopefully to deal with this meta.

I subbed out Ysera. I love Ysera and it pained me to do so, she can win games on her own but she's just too slow, and it seems like she can be dealt with far too often and other times she's just a dead card against aggro.

Instead I put in Ragnaros. He's a little faster and can immediately effect the board state. I'm not a huge fan of Rag, I don't like how inconsistent he is, however I decided to run him for a while to see if he fits. I often think he's a little unnecessary in control warrior as if you want to kill a big guy you usually have a shield slam or a execute and if you need burst you have grom. I like that you can play him and hero power on the same turn, which is obviously what a CW likes to do, armor up.

I took out Baron Geddon as I found it often hard to find a great spot to play him. Also took out Emperor as I found he didn't do enough for me, instead I put in a second shieldmaiden for extra survivability. Also have flexible cards like slam and cruel taskmaster for early game removal and execute triggers.

This is my deck right now. It crushes face hunters super hard, haven't played a paladin but that's always tough. It might lose in the mirror match up as it isn't as greedy as some CW decks.



I may take out BGH as it might just be unnecessary and put in another late game threat, I want to try out Nexus Champ, may even put nefarian back in. I've seen control warriors put Piloted Shredders in their decks, I may consider that as it always seemed a bit off to only have death's bite as a 4 drop.

Thoughts?
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10-20-2015 , 08:33 PM
BGH is one of the easiest ways to deal with Mysterious Challenger as soon as it's played.
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10-20-2015 , 09:05 PM
I change my list all the time but im running both ysera and alex. Also a senjin. I dont get shredders in cw. I know theyre the best value 4 drop but they are antithetical to the cw aim.

Also have cut to just 1 acolyte. And no shield blocks.
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10-24-2015 , 11:09 PM
I'm like 6-4 running Patron at legend. It's fun to figure out how to tweak the deck. Took out frothings, ldo. Late game Boom/Rag/Gromm. Running 1 Ghoul, but none might be better. No emperor. Loetheb, Harrison, 2x Shredder, 1x Belcher. The rest typical Patron stuff. Haven't lost to Paladin yet. Also seems good v Druid.
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11-08-2015 , 12:48 AM
Im jazzed about the prospect of trying a 1-off warrior deck featuring the new full heal legendary. Trhe big issue i have with this idea is cutting to 1 execute and 1 shield slam - limits removal.

First pass, here goes:

Warrior 1-offs

Going to include cursed blade for early removal and gorilla tank bc the thing seems op as ****

Upgrade?
Execute
Shield slam
Whirlwind?
Fiery war axe
Revenge
Taskmaster
Armorsmith
Sparring partner?
Bash
Bouncing blade?
Kings defender
Shield block
Deathsbite
Brawl
Maiden
Gorehowl
Grommosh

Then:

Acolyte
Big game hunter
Belcher

Then the legendaries:

Obv reno, justicar

Nexus, boom, baron, alex

Ysera?
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11-08-2015 , 10:19 AM
Slam (already making it in lots of lists) would be nice to include since you won't have your double OP weapons for early removal.

Could open up lots of ok cards that aren't often run. Like maybe Wild Pyro and Battle Rage.

Edit: Thinking about it more, knowing that it is just whats left when you play Reno, I think I would maybe still just run one 2 of in FWA. It's just too good and you are going to mulligan for it anyway so you just need to get one in play before Reno which I would think wouldn't be a huge liability.

Last edited by jhall23; 11-08-2015 at 10:33 AM.
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11-26-2015 , 06:19 PM
I've been trying out the new Fierce Monkey in CW and I like it. It's nice to have an early drop with a bit of oomph. I may still cut it as it's 4 health is weak to swipe/truesilver/shredder/deaths bite but it does stave off aggro quite well.

Have been winning quite a bit with CW in the last couple of days, though I've not seen too many paladins for some reason. Might finally get the last ~100 wins I need for golden Garrosh.
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11-26-2015 , 06:23 PM
I really like LokShadow's Reno CW. I don't have Iron Juggernaut, so I replaced it with Fierce Monkey, and replaced Brann with Shield Block. Those are also better against aggro, Lok said he just prefers to have the higher winrate vs control decks.
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11-28-2015 , 04:24 AM
Seems strange to have Brann with no Healbot and no Coldlight.
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