What do you guys think is the most optimized Grim Patron list right now?

These two decklists were posted on reddit today.





They are nearly identical, the only difference being that one deck uses 1 inner rage and 2 fiery war axe and the other uses 2 inner rage and 1 fiery war axe.

Trump recently posted a series of 6 videos using a very similar decklist. He runs 1 inner rage and 2 fiery war axe. The main difference being trump runs commanding shout, 1 gnomish inventor, and 2 dread corsair, while the two lists above run no commanding shout, 2 gnomish inventor, and 1 dread corsair. I'm running Trump's list, but I don't think I like the commanding shout.

The first two videos in the series feature Trump being coached by TheRat, one of the pioneers of this deck, so you may want to check that out.

I don't think anyone's had close to the results that sjow has had with patron, I'd look at his list. Trump would not be the person I'd look to for advice on this particular deck, I don't think it's his strong suit.

As I mentioned in the edit, it's not his deck list, it's Th3Rat's, who hit rank 1 legend with this deck and did a guest spot on Trump's channel. I guess Trump realizes his weaknesses, because he just posted several videos with MrYagut (who also hit rank 1 legend) coaching him on Oil Rogue...

Speaking of Th3Rat, here's his guide to Patron Warrior:

http://hearthstoneplayers.com/th3-ra...warrior-guide/

THANKS FOR THIS! Ill definitely check out those videos and guide...it's exclusively patron for me this season...for better or worse to learn this beastly deck

I used shield block before it was cool. I don't think you even need shield slam to make it effective. It's a life gain + card draw, which is exactly what you're looking for in nearly all of your matchups, to ensure you make it to turn 8-10

But it's card draw that has no synergy with the rest of the deck: It can't whirlwind a board like Ghoul, or take damage for a bigger Battle Rage like corsair/ghoul/inventor, or take a Cruel buff to finish off a threat, or get you closer to killing a 5/5 like a Slam. At least Loot Hoarder can pump a Berzerker. Shield Block is wholly illogical in Patron, IMO.

i'd rather have shield block than loot hoarder or dread corsair.

What do you guys think of SJOW's list??? he runs no corsairs and that seems to be a staple in Patron Warrior as a Berserker activator and aggro control card.

while corsair is nice in an aggro matchup, it's worse than shield block in damage reduction. While it usually only costs 0-1 mana, it's still not great and doesn't have much of an effect on the game imo. I only started running one at the end of last month (didn't really play much gp though) and felt it greatly underperformed. I really really really like the original list I put together early early on when the deck only came out. Will see if I can't recreate it at some point and post it here.

edit: unstable ghoul is the activator for berserker btw, not dread corsair - and running two of these is awesome against aggro

I understand that unstable ghoul is a literal activator in terms of its deathrattle, but isn't playing free corsairs just icing on the cake as you can buff frothing by adding more minions to the board (for free with deaths bite) while still playing ghouls and what not...even if you don't have Grim Patrons in hand? or is that just more of a win more mindset as there are enough win conditions in decks that don't run corsairs?

I think 2 corsairs is too many and 1 or 0 is better

I started playing some control warrior today. I don't have Grommash yet, but I think my deck is fine. If any experts wanna weigh in here...

2x execute
2x shield slam
2x fiery war axe
2x armorsmith
2x cruel taskmaster
2x shield block
2x acolyte of pain
1x big game hunter
2x death's bite
1x piloted shredder
1x brawl
1x harrison jones
2x sludge belcher
1x emperor thaurissan
2x shieldmaiden
1x sylvanas
1x dr boom
1x alexstrasza
1x nefarian
1x ysera

Suggestions? I don't have Gromm (as I said) or Baron Gedden. I have about everything else in any control warrior deck in my collection, more or less. No Hogger (@IamRobik)

seems fine. i personally dont love emp in control, i often cut to just 1 shield block, and i go slightly more greedy than you. i rotate in a whirlwind depending on my mood, and lately loatheb.

Yeah, I was thinking both about adding whirlwind (or revenge) and Loetheb. I'm too scared to cut a shieldmaiden for it. Also, damn, Sylvanas seems really strong in Warrior, I didn't have THAT much love for it until today. I played it after Brawl a few times out of necessity, and it's just amazing to always win the brawl. Nefarian really shines as well. Got lightbomb in a bad spot vs a priest, easy game.

yeah, sylvanas is better in warrior than any other class imo

one nice thing bout emp is enabling the nasty slyvanas brawl combo.

i wouldnt cut a shieldmaiden. ive tried just 1 periodically and it just so happens running 2 is great. there is other stuff to cut if you want

nefarion is def a good to very good end game legend. in a deck chock full of bgh targets i think it's better than ysera.

the alex/nefarion/ysera dragon gauntlet is really great for control warrior.

also, i prefer baron > boom

I don't feel like there are enough strong Baron Targets right now to make running Baron good.

My only problem with running three 9 mana dragons is that it can make for some pretty awkward draws.

Dread Corsair in patron is a card that can always be cut pretty easily. Against hunter it's decent, against most everything else it's just okay. Most people play the hunter matchup incorrectly anyway, so cutting it would probably improve how they play it (it's a race, not a defensive matchup).

I think 2x Inner Rage is super super important to have. The second one greatly increases the likelihood that you'll be able to start comboing on turn 5, which improves pretty much every matchup. Worst case scenario is you cycle it or use it as removal.

+1

I would generally rather run Loatheb in Control Warrior than Emperor. Emp just doesn't get enough done, and the sheer number of 7+ mana cards in Control Warrior mean that you often don't actually get any real value out of emperor after 1 turn.

I think double brawl is worth considering right now. The only problem with revenge is the health requirement to actually clear the board against patron means you will die the next turn a fair amount of the time anyway.

I'm not sure how I feel about a whirlwind in warrior that doesn't run grom. It also makes the taskmasters worse. I kinda want to run the OTK raging worgen warrior with emperor. that sounds fun.

yeah true, i rotate in whirlwind bc i consider grom a near must, if you dont have grom i would not run them

taskmastersl ose value without him too obv but theyre fine

OTK warrior is incredibly fun, but it isn't strong against anything that patron is weak against, so I don't really get the point.

10 Mistakes Patron Warrior Players Make:

http://hearthstonechampion.com/10-mi...-players-make/

Very good article, but I think a large number of patron players don't understand the win conditions in various matchups, and that should have been in there.

this is remps fave thing to complain about, when he sees GPs armor up on 2