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Originally Posted by Yeodan
So I was looking at the leaving early thread below here and it seemed like half the people there think it's really bad to leave early when you're up and the other half don't really care when people come and go.
I was just invited to a new home game for the first time today, I knew most of the players there from the local poker club and some from another home game I've been to.
I arrived at 19, it took a while before the game got started, think we started a bit before 20.
I went there with €260, fully prepared to lose it all.
I sat down for €150 and after an hour I had €600+ in front of me.
There was no way I was going to lose that much money after just winning it.
Pretty good run so far. A lot of it depends on what you think of your game against the other players. If I felt like the better player, and was getting my money in good most of the time, and I was grinding my way up to 4x my buy-in, I'd feel good about sticking around and not losing it.
If I was getting beat up, and got lucky to win a huge pot, I'd be leary about giving it back too. I'm sure there is a nice quote about not losing the money you don't put into the pot... but even sticking half in when ahead means that sometimes you'll lose it.
Curious to know how big the other stacks were, when you were sitting at 600+, what the stakes were, and how aggressive the play was. It's possible that you could have given some small action and not risked it all.
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
So I asked the person who invited me if it was ok to "hit & run" to which she responded it's not her game, so she doesn't care.
Then about 10 minutes later I had a short talk with the guy who ran the game and he told me I was free to leave when I wanted to.
As I read more, I realized this wasn't a typical home game. More of an underground room, with other players ready to sit and play. You were brought there to play, and you played. Assuming you were discreet and serious in your asking, it was a good way to go.
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
So I sat back down at the table and folded mostly for another hour or so, I limped a few hands and raised once with AA, but I think it was pretty obvious I wasn't really playing anymore and that I wasn't going to give them a chance to win their money back.
At around 21:30 I said I would leave after the next orbit.
One of the other players was obviously upset about it.
Because you were being replaced, I don't have a problem with getting up and leaving. Particularly when you aren't giving much action. They are sore losers and will have to get over it.
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
Then when I stood up 10 minutes later I told them I'd come back to donate my winnings the next time and that player straight up told me there probably wasn't going to be a next time.
Two other players immediately seemed to agree, but the rest of the table didn't react too much and a few seemed to be on my side saying things like it's his money, he can do with it as he pleases.
If the host has no problem, then you'll get the invite back. I'm sure there was more whining after you left. Did the person who invited you stick around?
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
I'm not sure if I will ever get invited to that game again.
I'm pretty sure that one player is not going to like playing with me again, maybe up to a point where they will refuse to play with me again.
The real issue is that this player is invited to all the home games in and around the city and pretty much knows everyone.
Then they probably know the player is a sore loser and shouldn't be listened to. Unless they thought you were much better, they should welcome you back for a shot at your money.
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
I admit I felt bad for leaving.
But my bankroll was literally that €260, I wasn't going to play for €600 ...
Could I have just asked them if I could remove €400 from the table? Or would that be worse?
What do I do the next time I'm invited to that (or another) game and I'm up 4 buy-ins?
If the game was going to keep going, it wasn't going to matter when you left.
Having your entire bankroll in your pocket isn't the best plan, but that's been addressed from others. Having it all on the table at once is worse.
Removing money from the table is called going south and is generally prohibited. Given the choice of watching you leave with 600, or stay with 200 might have swayed some allow it.
I'm ticked when someone wins a huge pot and gets up (casino). Of the limited number of times I've been up 4+ buy-ins, I've always considered the other stacks. I might be physically sick if I lost a hand where i put in 4+ buy-ins, so I don't plan to do that anytime soon. If there is another stack north of 2+ BI, then I'm careful not to tangle with them. I've lost 2BI chunks, and while not fun, it wasn't sickening. You can play your game, and just be careful when going against another monster stack.
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
I probably wouldn't even care if I was properly rolled, but I'm not, so I cannot afford throwing away a few BI's just like that.
I could just sit there, fold and pay the blinds the rest of the evening, but that seems even worse etiquette?
There were 8 players me & the host included.
Two new players arrived 10 minutes before I left, the host gave one of them their seat.
So it's not like anyone lost a seat because of me or anything either.
I understand it's not proper etiquette to leave like that.
But what else can I do?
I would need a really good reason to sit and fold all night, instead of getting up. With new players ready to be seated, it's better that you leave.
As this seems more cardroom and less home game, I'd consider greasing the wheels that matter. If you are invited back, bring the host a gift. A nice bottle of liquor, handful of good cigars, etc. That will spread faster among the hosts and people that matter.