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07-15-2014 , 01:45 PM
During play last night, I found myself almost using one of the stereotypical sayings when I took someone out. I played some low cards and ended up tripping up on the flop. After I took the other player out and he was complaining about my hand selection, I almost said, "But they were suited."
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07-15-2014 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mariettabull
I'm an extreme introvert. It take a lot for me to go out among people I don't know and be sociable. Poker provides a good outlet for it, because it provides a general topic of conversation that doesn't have to be forced.
I think I've said this before here, but to me, being an introvert does not necessarily mean that you are anti-social. I am a very social person, but I'm also an introvert. I enjoy doing things by myself, and being social drains my batteries. After a lot of time around other people, I usually need to get away for a while and recharge.

Poker is one of the few social activities that I don't find to be draining in this way. I guess part of the reason is that you can choose how much you want to interact with other players in a poker game. I'm extremely social at my home games (sometimes to the detriment of my play), but in the casino I can range from chatty and gregarious to quiet and reserved.
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07-15-2014 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
During play last night, I found myself almost using one of the stereotypical sayings when I took someone out. I played some low cards and ended up tripping up on the flop. After I took the other player out and he was complaining about my hand selection, I almost said, "But they were suited."
I'll use this line half-jokingly in the casinos sometime. How a player reacts to it can be a great source of info on how they play.
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07-15-2014 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Schmendr1ck
I'll use this line half-jokingly in the casinos sometime. How a player reacts to it can be a great source of info on how they play.
I didn't say anything because it was a friend. Had it been someone I didn't know or didn't like, I probably would have said it. But of course, it being suited was only a tiny part of the reason I played the hand. Position, pot odds, and implied odds along with stack sizes were the big factors.

Also, I knew most of the players in the hand and knew if I hit my hand that one of them was going to pay me off.

Last edited by Doc T River; 07-15-2014 at 03:27 PM. Reason: I love it when a plan comes together.
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07-16-2014 , 10:53 PM
But mostly, you played it because they were suited.
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07-17-2014 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak
But mostly, you played it because they were suited.
No, and I know that to be true because if they were unsuited and everything else had been the same, I still would have played the cards.

So I guess I should have said them being suited had nothing to do with it because I know that if I hit a flush, it would have been worthless.

Last edited by Doc T River; 07-17-2014 at 09:46 AM. Reason: I could have gotten a straight flush with the cards, but the odds of that are pretty low.
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07-17-2014 , 04:56 PM
Ya'll can say what you want, but I play every suited hand because it gives me a 3% edge. I'm looking for every edge I can get!

By the way, that 50% hit the flop, not hit the flop, saying is pure gold.
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07-17-2014 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by UNC
Ya'll can say what you want, but I play every suited hand because it gives me a 3% edge. I'm looking for every edge I can get!

By the way, that 50% hit the flop, not hit the flop, saying is pure gold.
I see you passed the class on sarcasm.
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07-18-2014 , 07:16 AM
Class? I got my PhD!
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07-18-2014 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by UNC
Class? I got my PhD!
You're a professor now, right?
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07-18-2014 , 03:54 PM
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07-19-2014 , 10:07 AM
At the bar league which I used to run the MD used to just turn up and get blind drunk and people would end up trying to fight him. If anybody had actually succeeded in fighting him then there would've been no more MD.

He wasn't great for business, but good for laughs.
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07-21-2014 , 03:42 PM
What is the MD?
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07-23-2014 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
What is the MD?
That's the tournament official who is qualified to say if you are drawing dead or not. You can't officially be drawing dead unless the MD calls it.
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07-23-2014 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
Having played for ten years, I do it for the fun now when playing live. I play with another league online and that is for money and advancement.
I play a monthly HoldEm tournament at my Country Club - $60 buy-in with 1 $40 rebuy. 15-25 players every month. We drag $10 out of the $60 for jackpots, quads or better + end of year most $$ gets half the pot. First guy out has to buy fresh cookies for everyone, he is "cookie boy", monthly email re-cap with spreadsheet. All members can bring a guest. Club manager told us if any cash is visible we are shut down so we wait until about 10pm ( when all the bridge players have gone to bed ) to collect $$$. Great irregular home cash games ( Omaha HiLow + Crazy Pineapple only ) spin off.
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07-23-2014 , 07:47 PM
I can probably find my PTN hat if I look hard enough. I dealt in 2 of those tournaments, I think my profit of 120 puts me in the top 1% of people involved in that mess. At least Montel was nice.
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07-24-2014 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Caputop
At least Montel was nice for a shameless swindler.
FTFY.
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07-25-2014 , 10:08 AM
I don't think celebrities necessarily owe us a duty to not pitch scams, but don't entities (thinking tv or radio stations) using a public resource owe us that duty.

Tax reduction scams seem to be a big thing yet you see and hear a lot of these ads on tv and radio.
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07-25-2014 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
I don't think celebrities necessarily owe us a duty to not pitch scams, but don't entities (thinking tv or radio stations) using a public resource owe us that duty.

Tax reduction scams seem to be a big thing yet you see and hear a lot of these ads on tv and radio.
There are some legitimate methods for reducing the amount of delinquent taxes owed. The IRS will often accept a lower sum if they can get the matter settled right away. But you are right, there are a lot of charlatans out there claiming they can help you.

If you are in this situation and are so inclined, you can do some research online about the tax code, then call the IRS and discuss your options. I know someone who did this and it worked out to his satisfaction.

If you want help, contact a tax accountant or tax attorney who has been recommended to you.
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07-25-2014 , 02:29 PM
Our home game........anytime there is an all-in and a call we have a player that impulsively (and this is consistent as gravity) ALWAYS semi-yells "We got a race! We got a race!"

Whether it is:
99 vs AK
AK vs AQ
K4 vs A10
AA vs KK

ALWAYS............"We got a race!"
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07-25-2014 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eneely
There are some legitimate methods for reducing the amount of delinquent taxes owed. The IRS will often accept a lower sum if they can get the matter settled right away. But you are right, there are a lot of charlatans out there claiming they can help you.

If you are in this situation and are so inclined, you can do some research online about the tax code, then call the IRS and discuss your options. I know someone who did this and it worked out to his satisfaction.

If you want help, contact a tax accountant or tax attorney who has been recommended to you.
Thankfully I don't have that problem but a poster calling Montel a swindler made me think of the other day when I heard a news story about people getting in trouble for promising to help with IRS debt and then I later hear an ad for such a company. The company made it sound like they were manning a phone line established by the IRS.

Again, shouldn't a business using public resources check out other companies before allowing advertisement?
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07-25-2014 , 04:33 PM
I guess, but to check out every advertiser would take a huge amount of resources. What about a car dealer who rips people off? What is the standard: a conviction in court, BBB claims, or just bad reviews?
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07-25-2014 , 07:30 PM
I would say a conviction or a substantial BBB verified complaint. Bad reviews not indepentedly verified not so much.
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07-30-2014 , 02:31 PM
I saw the Doyle Theory in practice last night at bar poker when I played against a ninety year old woman.

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing."

Last edited by Doc T River; 07-30-2014 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Actually first theorized by George Bernard Shaw
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08-03-2014 , 04:41 PM
If anyone wants to run their own home league or bar poker, this guy claims to have the answers. At only 126 pages, I'd be careful about even buying it.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/home...=9781500127381
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