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Question about forming a No Rake Home Poker Club in Ohio Question about forming a No Rake Home Poker Club in Ohio

12-04-2023 , 08:34 PM
Poker at Home
Citizens can legally play poker at home in Ohio so long as no one profits from conducting the game or hosting the games at their residences as per Section 2915.02(A)(2). If a rake is taken from the pot then the game becomes illegal. Also if players are earning more from home poker games than they are from any other source of income, then they would be violating Section 2915.02(A)(4) of the Ohio code.

Is it legal if I create a club that plays every month. $10s of each buy-in goes to the club. Once a year, all of the money given to the club, over the year, will go to all paid entries to a local live tournament at a casino. 100% of their winnings, if there are any, will be distributed to the club members. None of the money goes to the club for payment or donations. It all is given back to members of the club and we determine who goes to the live tournament, based on the home tournaments and who won the most and the number of paid entries, based on how many we can pay for.
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12-05-2023 , 10:38 AM
AINAL, but we did something like that in Colorado and were pretty sure it was legal. We held out a percentage from each tournament's buy-in and held a championship tournament at the end of the season. The top point-winners from the season played for the pot, with the grand prize being an entry into a WSOP Circuit event. Player could do what he wanted with any winnings, though. They didn't go back to club members.
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12-05-2023 , 02:30 PM
I think it's a good idea, but I wouldn't take on that responsibility without consulting a lawyer who knows for sure.

Was there a recent change in the law? Have others done anything similar in the past?
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12-06-2023 , 05:56 PM
@Garick
Yeah, how the club is ran and where we contribute to the club is still being thought through. I wanted to contribute a % of the live tournament because I wanted people who may not be good at poker, but enjoys playing, get a chance to win their money back.

@BigBlue56
No recent change in the law and I don't know of anyone doing something similar in Ohio. I probably should talk to a lawyer, but never talked to one before and it defiantly is intimidating.

Last edited by shortedc; 12-06-2023 at 06:03 PM. Reason: reply to both
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01-15-2024 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by shortedc
Citizens can legally play poker at home...
Is it legal if I create a club?
The case law on unraked home poker games is scarce. In theory, the law in all 50 states, including Ohio, gives ample power to prosecutors to press charges against hosts of "home games," even unraked ones, with people outside their circle of friends. You can play with your high school buddies, the other dads, people from work, etc., but you can't play with people you don't know. Germany has similar laws to the U.S., and home games are strictly illegal. But unlike United States, in Germany the state hires enough prosecutors to enforce its laws. In the United States, the charges against people running unraked home games were mostly in conjunction with other violations of law or ordinances--assaults, robberies, or disturbing the neighbors. For U.S. prosecutors with limited resources, wife-beaters and drug dealers have priority. Among the 10,000s of people who hosted friendly unraked home games over the last century, less than a dozen have gone to jail. Prosecutors have regularly arrested people running raked games. But OP has no intention of raking the pot. So unless OP is among the unlucky 0.001 percent, his home game is fine. There are plenty of good lawyers, poker players themselves, ready to sell the OP a get out of jail free card.

Where OP tests the law is his intention to found a "club" to play poker. Under law, a club, such as a Rotary Club or veterans club, is a social gathering not in your home. The law in all 50 states clearly forbids poker in clubs, except for charity. The restrictions are severe depending on the state. In Massachusetts, clubs may host only three charity poker games per year, and you have to register each with your municipality. In my long-running game, the various clubs shut us down when they learned about the law. But even when the police, after a tip about a drug deal, raided our raked game in a warehouse, they scanned our drivers licenses but the prosecutors never pressed charges. If anything, it seems like the law is more relaxed. For decades, playing poker for money outside the home, even in casinos, was strictly illegal in Texas. In the last decade, players have overcome the restriction by founding clubs that charge a membership fee. These clubs clearly violate the law, but everyone knows about them. Prosecutors have used their discretion and let them flourish.


Hosting a poker club, you are more likely to get robbed than prosecuted. The rake in casinos pays for transparency and security to play with people you don't know.

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