Using input from my league members and my HP guys, here's what I have. What do you guys think? Do you have any suggestions? Am I missing anything?

Regular Season
15 Tournaments (10-Freezeout, 5-Rebuy/Addon)
Top 10 Scores Count

Dates
Event #1: October 8th, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #2: October 22nd, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #3: November 5th, $25/15 Rebuy/Addon Tournament
Event #4: November 19th, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #5: December 3rd, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #6: December 17th, $25/15 Rebuy/Addon Tournament
Event #7: January7th, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #8: January 21st, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #9: February 4th, $25/15 Rebuy/Addon Tournament
Event #10: February 18th, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #11: March 4th, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #12: March 18th, $25/15 Rebuy/Addon Tournament
Event #13: April 1st, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #14: April 15th, $50 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Event #15: April 29th, $25/15 Rebuy/Addon Tournament
Freeroll: May 13th, $0 No Limit Holdem Tournament

10-Freezeout Events ($50 Buy-In)
• Buy-In: $50 for T7,500 in chips ($15 to the League)
• Blind Levels: 20 Minutes

5-Rebuy-Addon Events ($25/$15 Buy-In)
• Buy-In: $25 for T2,500 in Chips ($5 to the League)
• Unlimited Rebuys (Until 1st Break): $15 for T2,500 in Chips ($5 to the League)
• Single Addon (After 4th Level): $15 for T4,000 in Chips ($5 to the League)
• Blind Levels: 20 Minutes

Earning Points
Each player earns points for playing in events based on the following formula, where n is the number of players in the tournament and p is the place a player finishes:

Winning Seats
The Regular Season player who has earned the most points in his/her 10 best events will earn a ticket to the $1100 tournament. For every additional $550 raised by the league, a seat is awarded to the next highest point earner. All remaining moneys go towards the freeroll. If a player cannot use a seat he/she earns, then that player will forfeit the seat and be eligible for the freeroll.

Profit-Sharing (80-20)
Players who earn seats through the league and cash in an event will keep 80% of his/her winnings. All other players will share the remaining 20% based on participation in the regular season. Each event played will count as 1 share.

Post-Season Freeroll
All leftover money raised by the league will go towards the Freeroll.
Any player who has played in at least 5 events, but hasn’t earned a seat will be eligible. Starting stacks will be based on participation throughout the regular season.
• Events 1 – 4: T500 in chips for each event played (Play in all 4 and earn an extra T1000)
• Events 5 – 8: T600 in chips for each event played (Play in all 4 and earn an extra T1400)
• Events 9 – 12: T700 in chips for each event played (Play in all 4 and earn an extra T1800)
• Events 13 – 15: T1000 in chips for each event played (Play in all 3 and earn an extra T2000)
• Play in all 15 events and earn an extra T3600

Tourney Blind Schedule (Mohegan Sun's Big Tourney Schedule)
Level 1: 25-50
Level 2: 50-100
Level 3: 75-150
Level 4: 100-200
10-Minute Break
Level 5: 150-300 (Ante 25)
Level 6: 200-400 (Ante 50)
Level 7: 300-600 (Ante 75)
Level 8: 400-800 (Ante 75)
10-Minute Break (Remove 25s)
Level 9: 500-1000 (Ante 100)
Level 10: 600-1200 (Ante 200)
Level 11: 800-1600 (Ante 200)
Level 12: 1000-2000 (Ante 300)
5-Minute Break
Level 13: 1200-2400 (Ante 300)
Level 14: 1500-3000 (Ante 400)
Level 15: 2000-4000 (Ante 400)
Level 16: 3000-6000 (Ante 500)

Looks good! I just finished setting up our league as well, very similar in many regards, including the overly complicated formulae. I'm too lazy to crunch some numbers, so might plugging a few in for us to give an example of points?

Hope it goes well!

Here's some Point Distributions:

15 Players (194 Pts): 50.6, 33.6, 26.0, 21.5, 18.5, 16.2, 14.5, 13, 11.9, 10.9, 10, 9.3, 8.6, 8.0, 7.5

8 Players (66.9 Pts): 18.6, 12.0, 9.1, 7.3, 6.1, 5.2, 4.6, 4.0

Yikes.

Not to be a negative nelly, but what happens when players start dropping out because they have no chance, and then those who are close on points feel resentment for being forced to keep playing to defend, yet not making a win not worth nearly as much as a win early in the league? Winning against more than half the field is worth less than half as many points. I'd seriously consider tweaking that. Otherwise I think you run the risk of people dropping out fast.

I'll crunch some numbers and see what I can do.

It was a problem I ran into my first year, although I can't remember the point system I used. Mitigating it was that there was no freeroll, so nobody had any reason to keep playing. I was also taking a much higher percentage out of the pool (50%), so it wasn't even worth it to play. What happened was that six guys were fighting over four seats, and it just wasn't even worth it, since they had to keep paying the full buyin.

The folks winning the bigger games should get some benefit, but not so much of one that a win at a smaller game isn't worthwhile. It's the kind of thing that will feed itself, as people stop playing because they can't win, which makes the tourneys worth less for those on the fence, and those who feel forced to play because they're close in points will just be angry about it.

I'm just happy you're figuring this out. I'll be happy to just show up and play poker.

Earning Points
Each player earns points for playing in events based on the following formula, where n is the number of players in the tournament and p is the place a player finishes:



This sounds just like a high school math problem. Oh wait... You should definitely slip in one of these one the next tests.
Good luck with the league. How many members do you think there will be?

I've gotten interest from 9 guys already and I still haven't heard from a few of the regs. I'm sure we'll get a few more. If we get a dozen each week, that'll send 4 guys to the "show".

Is participation in the league mandatory? In other words, can you play in the tournament without contributing to the league?

Anyone can play in the tournaments, but everyone pays the same entry fee. If someone isn't "part" of the league, they can always join. The top 10 scores are counted, so it's possible to do well in a few events and build up a decent point total.

I live in stamford and would like to add to the pot, can you pm me with directions or an address?

Thanks

I tried PMing you. Your settings are set to not receive PMs.

I have a follow up question about the freeroll. If $500 is left over from the regular season, do you pay out the freeroll like any other tournament (e.g. Top 4 cash if 14 players)? Or is yours' winner take all?



I've adjusted the formula a bit. Thoughts?

N = the numbers of players
P = player's finishing place

Points = sqrt(N^3)/P

15 Players: 58.1, 29.0, 19.4, 14.5, 11.6, 9.7, 8.3, 7.3, 6.5, 5.8, 5.3, 4.8, 4.5, 4.1, 3.9

12 Players: 41.6, 20.8, 13.9, 10.4, 8.3, 6.9, 5.9, 5.2, 4.6, 4.2, 3.8, 3.5

10 Players: 31.6, 15.8, 10.5, 7.9, 6.3, 5.3, 4.5, 4.0, 3.5, 3.2

Double points for first place over second seems REALLY high. I found in my league the guys who were finishing consistently 4th or 5th still had a shot, and still kept playing. In this one, a couple of wins is enough to basically eliminate anybody else it seems. Also, double points for winning a game with only 1/3 more players still feels steep. The guy who finishes third in the 15 player game and finally gets it to first in the 10 player game isn't likely to return for next week's 8 player game. It's the kind of thing that has a way of destroying itself.

Or maybe it's fine, I dunno. Try it out, see how it works.

I tried changing the settings, if the pm doesn't work you can e-mail me at aceofdiemonds@gmail.com

How do you only have THREE posts in almost three years?

I agree, so I think I have a winner - another pseudo complex formula:

n = # of Players
p = Finishing Place

Points = sqrt(n^3/p)-2n/3

15 Players: 48.1, 31.1, 23.5, 19, 16, 13.7, 12, 10.5, 9.4, 8.4, 7.5, 6.8, 6.1, 5.5, 5.0

10 Players: 25, 15.7, 11.6, 9.1, 7.5, 6.2, 5.3, 4.5, 3.9, 3.3

I dunno, man. 2/3 the players but 1/2 the points? I think you'll find as the league gets near the end, people will drop off, which will make those remaining fight over fewer points, which will encourage more people to drop off, etc.

I do a straight 150 for first, but scale it down to 0, so it's second (and subsequent) place(s) that takes a bit more of a hit. Then I add a bonus as a percentage of cash won (with 1st being around 50 points in an average game). That way it's still worth something to win no matter what, but those who go deep in the bigger games get more.

Freeroll Question

Should the freeroll be winner take all or should it be paid out like a regular tournament?

Is there another prize in the freeroll, or just the extra cash? I'd spread it a little, but weight it towards first and second.

Email sent.

some people prefer to listen rather then speak, i see you're the latter of the two :]

We discussed things last night, and we're pretty excited to start next month. We came across a question.

Should players have to play in a minimum number of games to receive profit-sharing?

I don't require it, but my shares aren't linear. I found it helped get some one-offs for the last few games, since it seemed more real and they wanted a taste. I didn't advertise how tiny that taste would be.