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Old 05-06-2018, 08:06 PM   #1
One Ayed Jack
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Help with Tournament Structure.....

I run a tournament (been running solid for 13 years), and we just decided to bring antes into the mix.

Everyone starts with 5000 in chips. Reds are $5, Green $25, Black $100, Purple $500, and 1 yellow chip to start at $1,000.

All rounds are 30 mins.

Round 1 - $5/$10
Round 2 - $10/$20
Round 3 - $25/$50
Round 4 - $50/$100
Round 5 - $100/$200
Round 6 - $200/$400
Round 7 - $300/$600
Round 8 - $500/$1000
Round 9 - $1,000/$2,000
Round 10 - $2,000/$4,000

Game rarely gets to round 10 and Usually ends in round 9.

We would like to add antes into the game, starting in either round 5 or 6.....

Thoughts? How would you do it? How would they progress?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:37 PM   #2
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Re: Help with Tournament Structure.....

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I run a tournament (been running solid for 13 years), and we just decided to bring antes into the mix.

Everyone starts with 5000 in chips. Reds are $5, Green $25, Black $100, Purple $500, and 1 yellow chip to start at $1,000.

All rounds are 30 mins.

Round 1 - $5/$10
Round 2 - $10/$20
Round 3 - $25/$50
Round 4 - $50/$100
Round 5 - $100/$200
Round 6 - $200/$400
Round 7 - $300/$600
Round 8 - $500/$1000
Round 9 - $1,000/$2,000
Round 10 - $2,000/$4,000

Game rarely gets to round 10 and Usually ends in round 9.

We would like to add antes into the game, starting in either round 5 or 6.....

Thoughts? How would you do it? How would they progress?

Thanks in advance!
What is your goal in adding antes? Making the structure faster or slower?
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:01 PM   #3
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Re: Help with Tournament Structure.....

I think that antes are typically 1/8th of the BB. So at level 5 you can introduce a 25 ante.

Round 1 - $5/$10
Round 2 - $10/$20
Round 3 - $25/$50
Round 4 - $50/$100
Round 5 - $100/$200/25
Round 6 - $200/$400/50
Round 7 - $300/$600/75 or 100
Round 8 - $500/$1000/100 or 150
Round 9 - $1,000/$2,000/200 or 250
Round 10 - $2,000/$4,000/500

This will speed up your game significantly though, so you may want to increase the time for each blind level to compensate.
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:54 PM   #4
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Re: Help with Tournament Structure.....

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What is your goal in adding antes? Making the structure faster or slower?
So, here's my thought process:

In the 200/400 blind level with about 10 minutes left to go, there seems to always be a "mass exodus" of players. I was thinking that by adding "antes" it would either force a little more action pre-flop (making things go faster) or force the typical "mass exodus" players to rethink limping in every hand in the early rounds. Or, it would do both.

In the end, I definitely don't want to slow the tournament down. It already takes 5+ hours to complete.

All in all, I'm not even 100% sure why we're thinking of the change. To be honest, someone mentioned it at our last game and then everyone seemed to agree that we should have antes....
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:29 PM   #5
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Re: Help with Tournament Structure.....

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So, here's my thought process:


All in all, I'm not even 100% sure why we're thinking of the change. To be honest, someone mentioned it at our last game and then everyone seemed to agree that we should have antes....
The value of antes are that they allow you to fine tune the structure. Before you decide to make a change you should decide what your objective is.

As for the mass exodus at a particular point, I'm not certain there is a solution to that. If you speed up the structure you probably just change the point it occurs.
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Old 05-10-2018, 12:37 PM   #6
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Re: Help with Tournament Structure.....

If you search this specifc forum for antes, I'm sure you'll come up with a bunch of threads. My guess is many if not most will say don't bother. We tried it once and won't go back. In self-dealt home games it's just too confusing, and while it may speed up the bust-outs, it def slows down the # hands/hour.

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Old 05-15-2018, 11:04 AM   #7
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Re: Help with Tournament Structure.....

We did the same thing at my home game for a 3 month trial period last year. The game didn't wrap up significantly sooner (or later to be honest) and quite often it became a huge pain in the a$$ to figure out who had and hadn't anted up. Once people would have a few drinks into them guys splashed the pot all the time so we dropped it and went back to our no ante formula. I like the long running game though, my friend! My monthly home game is 2 small buy in NLHE tournies and small stakes cash games ($25 with one rebuy allowed in the first 30 minute blind level if you get coolered badly) and has been running since 2002 (we're actually just getting golf and T-shirts made up this year to celebrate that) and has grown from 5 or 6 guys/game to an average of 32 guys per game. Nobody loses too badly ($100 would be a slaughter) and in all the years and new faces that have joined in I've only ever turfed one guy. All the best in keeping your game going for many more years! Some of my closest buddies now are guys that I've met through poker, I hope you have the same experience. Sorry for the derail...
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