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View Poll Results: What do you think of drawing for seats in a cash game?
When all the players are regs it makes sense 38 60.32%
Drawing seats in a cash game is lame 10 15.87%
Meh, whatever, doesn't much matter either way 15 23.81%
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:30 AM   #1
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Drawing for seats in a cash game

In my regular weekly cash game we draw for seats.

The practice didn't come from me, it was introduced by 2 of the regs who were part of the group when we started about 4 years ago, and they basically copied what they were doing in their other regualr weekly game (our game became their second weekly cash game). That group started playing Sit & Go's initially (3 turbo 1 hour tournies per evening) so I assume the practice to draw seats came from that. When they transitioned to cash games they kept the practice.

This is a regular group of about 10 regs with some semi-regular subs (about another 10) and the game is limited to 8 players so we end up playing with the same pool of guys pretty much every week. Once in a while you may get 1 new guy when we can't fill the seat with the usual list of guys.

So my question is whether you think it makes sense to draw seats in a cash game due to the fact the group is entirely made up of regs who play each other almost all the time? Or is this just retarded?
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:38 AM   #2
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

seems a pretty fair way to keep arguments to a minimum, if everyone knows everyone then people are going to be trying to get position on certain players etc which can make things a bit tense when people aren't subtle and are obviously moving seats to get position
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:43 AM   #3
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

I voted for how we should seat players, but not how we actually choose seats. In our game, those who care are comfortable jockeying for the arrangement that they want.

It is a little extra work to draw, but it adds variety among of game of regular players. I wouldn't mind a redraw halfway through the game. I might give this a try the next time I host.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:11 AM   #4
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

Draw 100% of the time.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:13 AM   #5
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

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Draw 100% of the time.
Do you draw for seats in your game?
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:39 AM   #6
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

Yep, just once at beginning of night.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:18 AM   #7
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

I run it like a casino, draw seats for tournaments and for cash we just sit in an open seat.

For cash games we have two different scenarios. The early and late cash games are handled the same way. We play a tournament in the middle. The early cash game starts as soon as we have enough players and as players arrive they sit in any open seat. The late cash game starts when enough players get knocked out of the tournament. Again players just sit in any open seat.

It has never been a problem, our group is similar to yours except we can have up to 2 tables. We are all friends and have played together for years with an occasional new person thrown in.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:03 PM   #8
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

We draw seats at our cash game as well. That was everyone is happy and it is all at random.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:51 PM   #9
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I find it fairer to draw. I also dislike the idea of changing seats to get positional advantage on certain players.

It's a home game, not a casino. Let the deck choose who has position on people. I find our game to be a tougher than usual home game. Players actually know how to use position.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:20 PM   #10
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

I think it is a good idea. We do it at my game.

The reason - some guys would show up just a bit late, then they could "cherry pick" the seat they wanted after everyone else was seated.

They always wanted to be to the left of one or two specific players.

Now, we draw and no longer have this issue.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:22 PM   #11
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

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I think it is a good idea. We do it at my game.

The reason - some guys would show up just a bit late, then they could "cherry pick" the seat they wanted after everyone else was seated.

They always wanted to be to the left of one or two specific players.

Now, we draw and no longer have this issue.
How do you seat late players? How does the draw work for them?
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:50 PM   #12
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

We just leave the cards to draw seats out, and late comers get to pick for the remaining seats.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:00 PM   #13
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

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We just leave the cards to draw seats out, and late comers get to pick for the remaining seats.
We do it the same. Our usual host has separate cards just for drawing seats.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:02 PM   #14
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

We draw. only stipulation is that the host draws first, and could stay in his own seat, and then everyone fills in around him. I do this for several reasons,
A. I like to be in the center of my own game to have better control, even though its a self dealt game.
B. I set my seat with a table directly behind me that contains the chip box for additional buyins.
C. I usually have to play/deal till the end of the night, so I have a more comfortable desk type chair that makes rotating/hosting much easier.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:03 PM   #15
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We do it the same. Our usual host has separate cards just for drawing seats.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:06 PM   #16
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We draw. only stipulation is that the host draws first, and could stay in his own seat, and then everyone fills in around him. I do this for several reasons,
A. I like to be in the center of my own game to have better control, even though its a self dealt game.
B. I set my seat with a table directly behind me that contains the chip box for additional buyins.
C. I usually have to play/deal till the end of the night, so I have a more comfortable desk type chair that makes rotating/hosting much easier.
We do this as well. Basically host picks his seat and is assigned the Ace. Than other other 7 players draw the 2-8 and get seated relative to the seat picked by the host. But this is done purely as a courtesy to whomever is hosting not because he has to deal or anything (we all deal in turn)
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:22 PM   #17
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

I voted for the "When all the players are reg it makes sense", but the answer I wanted to pick was "Always draw for seats no matter what".
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:39 PM   #18
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

I voted "meh" though my real feeling is more like "both ways are okay."

I don't draw for seats in my cash game. Usually I sit in the same place, and other seats get filled by players in the order that they show up. I normally only put out enough seats for confirmed players, so the latecomer(s) get whatever is left.
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:00 PM   #19
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

We let people sit however they want in our cash games. A few of us have settled into spots we're "comfortable" in. I'm not thrilled that I have the tightest player on my left, picking off my loose play, but I manage.

It's not a problem for us.

If it were a problem for enough people -- as one or two people could manage to get themselves at the other end of the table without issue -- we'd draw for seats.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:34 PM   #20
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We don't draw for seats. I always sit in the same spot and people sit wherever they want when they get. Most of the regs take the same seats anyways. Never had an issue with late arrivals or complaints about seats so I've left it like that.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:10 AM   #21
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

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We don't draw for seats. I always sit in the same spot and people sit wherever they want when they get. Most of the regs take the same seats anyways. Never had an issue with late arrivals or complaints about seats so I've left it like that.
You should try a draw, just to see how much it changes the dynamic. You might find it is a lot of fun to mix things up.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:43 AM   #22
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

Drawing for seats seems to me the worst way to go as it actually creates the possibility that everybody is unhappy with their seat. Of course if your players can't choose seats without a hassle then a drawing solves that issue .... though I think drawing for first choice of seats solves that problem.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:05 PM   #23
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

I've never even considered drawing seats for a cash game. As Pali and JZ said, I sit in the same spot, and several of the regs have their favorite spots as well. The only time the issue has ever come up is when somebody tries to sit in one particular reg's spot. He helped me out with something a while back (I can't even remember what is was now) and got lifetime preferential seat selection in return. I ended up modifiying it to "as long as he is one of the first 5 players to show". I won't ever do that again, however.

It's a cash game. Sit where you like, move to get position (nobody ever does), and nobody really cares.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:18 PM   #24
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

We used to use the "just sit wherever" method. Being creatures of habit, everyone started sitting in the same spot.

The last game we played we drew for seats. It changed the dynamic a little. It was very amusing that people became a little confused for a bit. I raise would come from the 2 seat and a player in the 7 seat would take notice and mention "weird that Frank is not sitting there". Or someone would say "Jake, what are you doing there, you sit over here".
Funny how our minds organize things.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:24 PM   #25
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Re: Drawing for seats in a cash game

When I host I always sit in the same spot. I sit in front of the chips and run the bank out a drawer in the cabinet the chips sit on. Seat selection tends to vary as people arrive so it randomizes itself to a certain degree. It has never been a big issue there.

At the weekly game I play in people also tend to sit in familiar spots. I do like to switch it up a bit there. The big LAGtard in that game tends to show up late and try to sit on my left. I mostly don't care because he has way too much gamble in him but it does tend to get old. After a few sessions of that I will try to wrangle two closed seats to my left before he shows up. I'm not sure how the guys would react to drawing for seats but I think it is wise not to bring it up. No need to tap the tank.
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