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Old 02-27-2011, 09:05 PM   #1
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Heart Custom Mixed Game Placards

Hi folks, I've made some FL mixed game placards. They're 3x5" laminated cards. You choose the games and colors. Want a game that's not on the list? Just let me know how it's played and I'll add it!


Full list of colors and games: http://www.pfapfap.org/poker/placards.html

$12 for a set of 12, $8 for each additional set of 12. A 52-card set is $35. Shipping is extra. I accept PayPal, FullTilt, and PokerStars.

These are designed for Fixed Limit. A PL/NL set may cost extra.


We've used these several times, and they've been a huge hit each time. The graphical language helps new players feel comfortable with the crazy games, and they help dealers operate more smoothly.

Email me at pfapoker@gmail.com to start creating your own custom set!

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Old 02-28-2011, 01:43 PM   #2
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I would order these if I could get my group to play more mixed games. Of course, I could host and this would be the theme...have to think about it.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:22 PM   #3
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I'm going to think about which games, groups and colors I would want.

Any idea about the shipping costs to the Netherlands.

Great that you're ready to go!
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:17 PM   #4
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

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I would order these if I could get my group to play more mixed games.
That's the thing: these HELP with mixed games. People I never thought would ever try these were picking the MOST complicated games the very first time I used them. Having the graphics show what's expected really helps. People no longer feel lost and confused, they have a clear roadmap.

Here's a good starter set of 12: Texas Hold'em, Crazy Pineapple, Omaha, Omaha 8, 7 Card Stud, Razz, Stud 8, Q, Gardena Jackpots, California Lowball, Kansas City Lowball, Badugi

Three flop, three stud, three draw. Includes all the HORSE games. Only 3 split pot games, and 1 one them doesn't have a qualifier.

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I'm going to think about which games, groups and colors I would want.

Any idea about the shipping costs to the Netherlands.
I can help with that. The site has a few suggestions. Any goals? I think for my next personal set, I'm going to do Hold'em/Pineapple as Orange, Omaha as Yellow, Stud as Green, and Draw as Blue. Then when I make a PL/NL set, that will be Red.

Another way to do it for a 24 card set would be 8 high-only games, 8 hi/lo counterparts, and then 8 goofy games.

Shipping to the Netherlands is $13.
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:39 PM   #5
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

The first set should be most regular, 'normal' games. The sets you first made weren't all logical to me. I'd rather see games that are being played on the wsop, and/or are being played online.

So ar least the 8 game games, badugi, kansas city lowball, and maybe pineapple and crazy pineapple to go with it.

From there Ill take your advice.

Now I think of it, A cheat card for chinese poker would be pretty handy too (with scores for royalties and naturals)
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:52 PM   #6
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

Yeah, a Chinese card would be good. If you do a full 52 card set, I'll consider it.
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:58 PM   #7
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

52 was my intention anyway I'm a sucker for mixed games so I want to try, learn and play everything I can get my hands on. Only wish my friends want the same, but hopefully these cards are going to help me with that
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:59 PM   #8
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

That's a great point. These cards could make noobies more willing to give them a try, because the rules are easily and quickly understood. So for those of us who want to play more mixed games, this would make a great training and sales tool.
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

A WSOP set is HORSE plus 2-7TD, at least as far as FL is concerned. You'd be surprised how many of these can be found in casinos. Call up Treasure Island and ask about their bucket of orange discs.

It's likely I'll be whipping up PL/NL cards soon, so if you're waiting for that, just let me know and we'll get it going. It won't be nearly the same variety, but it'd be nice to have separate cards for an 8-game, and there are a couple Stud and Draw variants that can work with big bet as well.

Here are some suggested groupings, based on game type. The first batches are fairly straightforward, then all the really goofy stuff in the last one.
  • Hold'em, Super Hold'em, Rio Bravo, Rio Bravo 8, Pineapple, Pineapple 8, Crazy Pineapple, Crazy Pineapple 8
  • Omaha, Omaha 8, Binglaha, Stampler, 5 Card Omaha, 5 Card Omaha 8, Omaha HiHi, Omaha 2-1-1
  • 7 Stud, Razz, Stud 8, Q, Mississippi Stud, 7 Card Flip, Kentrel, Tahoe Pitch & Roll
  • 5 Draw, Jacks or Better, Jacks Back, Six Back, A-5 SD, A-5 TD, 2-7 TD, Badugi
  • Thermonuclear Armageddon Pineapple, Thermonuclear Armageddon Pineapple 8, Omaha 3-2-1, Double Flop Omaha, Criss-Cross Omaha, Omahugi, Badugaha, Oxford Stud, Billabong, Cowpie, Badaci, Badeuci
Dunno, just throwing stuff out there. Let me know what you're thinking, and I'll see if I can massage it.

Remember, you can include your own games, too. flushdrew4.2 has already added Upside-Down Pineapple:

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Old 02-28-2011, 06:06 PM   #10
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

Those groups look pretty good. I would want them color-coded by group, ie, a color for each group.

I would also want the games which are often played pot limit to be offered that way.

You could set up a web form on your site, to allow folks to put a checkmark next to the game cards they want, and have columns for the cards that are offered as FL, PL, NL.

GameFLPLNL
Texas Hold'em   
Texas Hold'em 8   
Super Hold'em   
Super Hold'em 8   
Rio Bravo   
Rio Bravo 8   
Pineapple   
Pineapple 8   
Crazy Pineapple   
Crazy Pineapple 8   
Lazy Pineapple (aka Tahoe)   
Lazy Pineapple 8   
Thermonuclear Pineapple   
Thermonuclear Pineapple 8   
Thermonuclear Armageddon Pineapple   
Thermonuclear Armageddon Pineapple 8   
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

An idea for further categorizing at home is to get little colored stickers to put on them (either front or back). That way all your Omahas are the same card color, but you can quickly sort out the crazy variants. Tho' in the end it doesn't really matter. Even if you didn't agree with my color choices on the first set, the set as a whole was incredibly usable. I think the easiest way is just sorting by game type.

The PL/NL versions will likely have an icon in the corner, or some other quick visual reference (in addition to listing PL/NL before the game name). And of course they won't have "SB/BB" distinctions.

But all this (plus web forms) will be after I get more than two orders. What happened to all the people claiming they wanted a set...?
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Old 03-02-2011, 06:02 PM   #13
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I have a game to add, invented by someone I know.

He called it 6-card throw 'em

6 down cards each;

discard one card face up preflop after betting

flop

discard one card face down

turn

discard one card face down

river

discard last card face down

you have to play the two cards you end up with plus three cards from the board.

he played it PL preflop and no limit post flop, although I always thought that's a bit silly.
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Old 03-02-2011, 06:20 PM   #14
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

Throw 'em...I like the name.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:53 AM   #15
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

We play a game here called Mario: its basically a fixed limit 5-card draw hi/lo with a declare. (You can also play it without a declare)

You get to arrange your cards in any way to show strength or weakness on the reveal. Its structured betting: $1 before the draw, $2, after you expose your first card. Best hand showing always starts the betting. $3 on the next card exposed. $4 on the next. $5 on the next card. At any time in the betting, some one can raise by doubling the last bet. There is a limit to three (or four, I cant recall right now) raises per round.

At this point, you still have one more card down, and not exposed. You have to declare if your going for the high or low. You declare by grabbing some chips in your hand, and at the same time, everyone reveals either 1-chip (for LOW) or 2-chips (for HIGH), or 3-chips (for SCOOP).

Finally, you expose your final card, and your hand is revealed.

The LOW does not need to qualify, it just needs to be the lowest hand (A is high and low).

If you have the wheel (A-5), its a scoop of the high and low (providing someone cant beat a straight for the high).

If you declare a SCOOP, you must win BOTH. If you dont, you LOOSE both.

One of the fun aspects of the game is HOW you order your cards for the reveal. You can play all kinds of mind games with people.
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Old 03-11-2011, 04:24 PM   #16
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

Sent you an email. Looking for the 52 card set + if you would be willing to do the Chinese poker one
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:17 PM   #17
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

When PFAP returns from his sabbatical, I'd like to know how many orders he has. I would probably never get to use these, but I am still tempted.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:35 PM   #18
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I'm hoping to get to sort my wishes out this weekend and then order a set.
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:17 AM   #19
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I'd like to see pfap make up a card for Mishegaas. I wrote up the rules, once, for new players to try to get an idea. I think the writeup was 6 pages long (though, it did include an explaination of the "pig" rule that the group uses).
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I think I got mine; partly based on some sort of logic, partly based on feeling. Tried to make at least one group with the games that some of us already have played and/or are pretty regular in home games, casino's, internet, wsop etc. The rest I tried to sort them that when you know at least the rules of the games of the previous group, you'll be able to figure out fast these ones. Also tried to mix it up a little.

Group 1: "Regular games we play" (yellow)
2-7 Triple draw
Texas Hold’em
Omaha 8
Razz
7 Card Stud
Stud 8
NL Texas Hold ‘em
Pot Limit Omaha
Badugi
NL Pineapple
NL Crazy Pineapple
PL Hold’em
Chinese poker (with royalties + naturals)

Group 2: "Let's kick it up a notch" (green)
Rio Bravo
5 Card Omaha
Super Hold’em
Omaha 2-1-1
Texas Hold’em 8
Hollywood
Lazy Pineapple
Omaha HiHi
Pineapple 8
Crazy Pineapple 8
5 card draw
6 card throw ‘em*
Ace to Five (California Lowball)

Group 3: "Now it's getting interesting" (blue)
Rio Bravo 8
Super Hold’em 8
5 Card Omaha 8
Hollywood 8
Lazy Pineapple 8
Stampler
Inverse Omaha
Billabong
7 card flip
Kentrel
5 card stud
Six Back
Q

Group 4: "Now it's just getting ridiculous" (red)
Thermonuclear Pineapple
Thermonuclear Armageddon Pineapple
Binglaha
Omahugi
Badugaha
Badeuci
Badaci
Oxford Stud
Mississipi Stud
Iron Cross
Criss-Cross Omaha
Double Flop Omaha
Omaha 3-2-1


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pfapfap, I'm pretty curious how the Chinese card would look like. Is there also room for the scores of royalties and naturals?
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:30 PM   #21
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I'm no longer pushing the "color code by difficulty" concept. It worked really well for the first few times we used them, but I think long term people are going to want to easily pick a game by form.

So now I'm pimping the 60-card set for $40, which includes one color for Hold'em/Pineapple, one for Omaha, one for Stud, one for Draw, and one for a collection of common PL/NL games (slightly different card format). I think if you want to sort by difficulty after that, a good way would be to get little colored stickers and put them either on the front
or back. That way it's easy to find the game type AND difficulty level.

I do have several orders. Unfortunately the lamination machine is taking its sweet time in getting here. Haven't made up the Chinese card yet, but once I do I'll include it in every set.

Thanks for your interest!

http://www.pfapfap.org/poker/
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Old 03-19-2011, 08:36 AM   #22
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Re: Custom Mixed Game Placards

I'll take one of those 60-card set then. Let us know when you're ready for production. I can transfer via Stars.
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PFAP is using that little-known marketing technique known as Hiding From Your Customers.

Or I guess you could go to his website.
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I'm in no hurry
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Listen to Episode 76 of a to-remain-annonymous podcast for an interview with pfapfap on the placards.
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