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Old 01-10-2014, 01:05 AM   #26
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Re: Chairs!

I have a set of 8 folding chairs that I got from K-Mart around 1997ish. They are cloth covered and are not too bad. No one has ever complained about them.

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Old 01-10-2014, 01:37 AM   #27
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I have a set of 8 folding chairs that I got from K-Mart around 1997ish. They are cloth covered and are not too bad. No one has ever complained about them.

Those aren't bad. I've seen a style of chair at Walmart that looks similar, and I might pick up a couple and see how they treat me.

That table is seriously old-school. Tell me you get stud games together.
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:04 AM   #28
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Those aren't bad. I've seen a style of chair at Walmart that looks similar, and I might pick up a couple and see how they treat me.

That table is seriously old-school. Tell me you get stud games together.
Of course! We play Dealer's choice. My house rules limit it to 17 different games which include 5 card stud (normal & Crown), 6 card stud Hi-Lo, 7 card stud, and 7 card stud Hi-Lo. I'l call a stud game every so often just to keep the Hold 'Em players on their toes.

Check out my House rules on my web page for more info. Probably one of the most extensive set of house rules you will ever see.

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Old 01-10-2014, 10:17 AM   #29
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Of course! We play Dealer's choice. My house rules limit it to 17 different games which include 5 card stud (normal & Crown), 6 card stud Hi-Lo, 7 card stud, and 7 card stud Hi-Lo. I'l call a stud game every so often just to keep the Hold 'Em players on their toes.

Check out my House rules on my web page for more info. Probably one of the most extensive set of house rules you will ever see.

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Man, that game sounds like a blast. Pity you're so far away or I'd have to pressure you into inviting me.
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:04 AM   #30
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Man, that game sounds like a blast. Pity you're so far away or I'd have to pressure you into inviting me.
But he's not too far away for me.... Hmmm.... ;-)
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:54 AM   #31
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Well, see my posting for my game in Newnan GA!
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:09 AM   #32
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Of course! We play Dealer's choice. My house rules limit it to 17 different games which include 5 card stud (normal & Crown), 6 card stud Hi-Lo, 7 card stud, and 7 card stud Hi-Lo. I'l call a stud game every so often just to keep the Hold 'Em players on their toes.

Check out my House rules on my web page for more info. Probably one of the most extensive set of house rules you will ever see.

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Nice choice of games, must be a great dealers choice night. Just curious why you don't follow RROP or atleast as a starting point?
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Old 01-18-2014, 01:03 PM   #33
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Nice choice of games, must be a great dealers choice night. Just curious why you don't follow RROP or atleast as a starting point?
In fact I do. I did consult RROP ver 4 way back in 1994 when I first put down my home rules. I also consulted with other sources. See the refference section at the end of my rules. BTW, Bob Ciaffone did review my rules, commented on them, and I did make some changes based on his input.

RROP were written orginally for a CARD ROOM. I'm not running a card room, I'm running a Dealer's Choice HOME game. Big difference. In a card room, the game played at a table is the same deal after deal. In my home game the game can CHANGE with every deal. The players deal the cards. To make everything consistant except the game, a number of changes are in order.

First and foremost, the ranking of hands NEVER changes. Change the game if you like but the hand rankings ALWAYS remains the same. With new players this is important. I worked in banking for 20 years and would organized the poker games when we would attend conventions, management offsite mettings etc. Lots of new players would join in and having a unified ranking system makes it easy for everyone to join in.

An area of confusion always comes up is how to rank the low hands. Using California Lowball with the A-5 Wheel where flushes and straights don't count in one hand but do in the next is problemmatic. That's why I play A-6 lows i.e. Chicago Wheel/London Lowball/Royal 64. A flush is a flush. A straight is a straight. Never changes. And A-6 is the mathamaticly correct low hand when the A is high or low. Since the ace is played high or low, using KC Lowball Duce to Seven lows causes the hand ranking system to change as the ace is played high only. Not consistant, therefore not used.

Yeras ago I allowed Canadian Stud but it was a problem because it had a special hand ranking (four flush beats a pair). It was confusing to the players so out it went and in came Crown Stud.

Secondly, there are a lot of home players who want to play trash games like baseball, duces wild, hi/lo Chicago, pass the trash etc which I do not allow. Having rules wrriten that specific limits what games can be called by the dealer solves all those issues up front.

Most of the esoteric rules that I have were put in to solve an issue that came up at some point. Example is Rule 26i:

Couples may play in the game but are not permitted to sit next to each other (except in tournaments), share chips, or to advise each other. Everyone plays for himself or herself.

RROP doesn't say anything about it but I've had couples sit down and play and before long the wife is asking her husband what to do, the husband borrows chips from his wife's stack to bet etc. So in came the rule and that crap ended.

Before I had my house rules written down, evertime I played poker with a mixed crowed, sometime during the night someone would say "That's not how we play it in Iowa" or "According to Hoyle..". House rules ends those fights. BTW Hoyle died in 1769 and never played a hand of poker.

My rules follow what you are likely to encounter in a casino but are tailored specificly for a home game.

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Old 01-18-2014, 03:02 PM   #34
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Re: Chairs!

Actually RROP does have a rule about helping someone else in a hand. One person to a hand. Seeking advice on how to play a hand would ( could) kill it.

Anyways, the reason I mentioned RROP is a extra chip in a split pot always goes to the player closest to the dealers left. I believe your rules said the right.

I know what you mean about Hoyle rules and players claiming a rule from According to Hoyle.... I usually just answer we base our rules loosely on RROP.
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Old 01-18-2014, 04:43 PM   #35
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Re: Chairs!

True about helping but there is no prohibition of them sitting together. That's what I was meaning when I said RROP says nothing about it.

Yes, you are correct about the odd chip, thanks! I can't believe I've missed it all these years. I will update it. It's how we award the odd chip (dealer's left). A few years back I added 25 cent chips now we never seem to have an odd chip as the BB & minimum bet is 50 cents or higher. If there is an odd 50 cent chip we just make change. It is possible if the SB folds AND the pot is split though so I need to get it right. Draft version 32 has been so updated.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:25 PM   #36
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Wasn't there something about chairs ITT...
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:26 PM   #37
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Re: Chairs!

Indeed. What does RROP say about chairs?
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:40 PM   #38
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Indeed. What does RROP say about chairs?
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RROP, section 54.2: Poker furniture

C. Chairs

1. All chairs must be equal, so as not to give any one player an unfair advantage by being more comfortable.

2. Any defective chair must be replaced before the start of the hand. Any player found to have a defective chair during play shall have no recourse.

3. No chair may exceed a width approximately 1/8 of total table circumference at an 8 person table.

3a. At a ten player table, the restriction is to 1/10 of table circumference.

4. All chair legs must remain on the floor during play of a hand. "Leaning back" during a live hand may result in a penalty, up to and including the offending player being required to stand for one full orbit.
This was all I could find...
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:41 PM   #39
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This was all I could find...
Whew! Good thing most of my players aren't familiar with that section.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:43 PM   #40
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Whew! Good thing most of my players aren't familiar with that section.
Well, RROP is a more of a guidline, anyway. Your house rules could be different.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:47 PM   #41
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This was all I could find...
That is from V10. In V11 there is also:

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5. If the chair is the type which will spin clockwise, counterclockwise, or both clockwise and counter clockwise, the player may not move all-in, then spin around and around, shouting, "Woo-woo, shows me the moneez!"
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:50 PM   #42
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That is from V10. In V11 there is also:
Damn, I use that move all the time!

EDIT: Actually, my chair only spins counter-clockwise, so I guess I'm ok? Or would that be an angle?
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:12 PM   #43
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Damn, I use that move all the time!

EDIT: Actually, my chair only spins counter-clockwise, so I guess I'm ok? Or would that be an angle?
Any amount of rotation is an angle.
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Old 01-18-2014, 10:28 PM   #44
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^I can't top that.
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Old 01-18-2014, 10:37 PM   #45
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^I can't top that.
Me either.

Jim wins!
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:45 PM   #46
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**** yes! What do I win?
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:41 AM   #47
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Is there anything about seat backs that lean back? Seems like a possible angle shoot too what with the penalty for having legs off the floor in V10.
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:50 AM   #48
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lol
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:22 PM   #49
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**** yes! What do I win?
One of these fancy card protectors

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One of these fancy card protectors

Pfft. Already got one.
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