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Old Today, 01:51 AM   #14151
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I read that as well. I think it would have been better if Jorah was the one to kill Dany. Maybe Jon helps in some way, but Jorah is the one who actually sticks the knife in. We've got 8 seasons drilling in how much in love he is with Dany, so that would have been incredible.

I realize that's what they were trying to do with Jon, but he like just met her. So despite his words and acting, turning on Dany is never going to seem that hard to the viewer.
God no. I mean if they wanted to be consistent with the rest of the season where they make everyone do stupid **** they would never do, then OK.

Grey Worm would kill Dany before Jorah would. He didn't just love her, he worshiped her.

Jon is like the main character in the story, he has to do something important. He's an Azor Ahai figure and Dany is his Nissa Nissa.
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God no. I mean if they wanted to be consistent with the rest of the season where they make everyone do stupid **** they would never do, then OK.

Grey Worm would kill Dany before Jorah would. He didn't just love her, he worshiped her.

Jon is like the main character in the story, he has to do something important. He's an Azor Ahai figure and Dany is his Nissa Nissa.
Bolded is why it would have been great. You're imagining it with ****ty execution, which is undertstandable. They couldn't have it happen over one episode. There would have to be a multi-episode arc where Dany just goes full on mad Targ and is burning innocents with Drogon all over the place.

I agree that if they did the show exactly the same but just subbed in Jorah knifing her for Jon, that would not make sense. Jorah clearly gives her a pass on one massacre. You start piling those up and even Jorah would do it.
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Re: Game of Thrones TV Thread - ***NO BOOKREADERS***

And what's the point of Jon Snow?
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Old Today, 09:47 AM   #14156
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Re: Game of Thrones TV Thread - ***NO BOOKREADERS***

While the last two season were written like crap and we missed out on seeing so many great stories, I don't think we should have been surprised about too many of the big arching story lines:

We saw Dany's ruthlessness build up consistently throughout the seasons, from watching her brother die, to crucifying nobles, to burning the Khals alive, to murdering Sam's father and brother.

Jon is the prince who was promised. He's half ice, half fire. He saved Westeros from both the Long Night and from the Targaryen Dynasty.

Was really fun reading back through this thread over the years to see all the discussion and theory. Thanks for everyone who made the good seasons even better with the weekly discussion and theorizing. Just some highlights that made me smile.

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I pretty much can already see how this is wrapping up.

Dany becomes more ruthless after trying to rule over the piles of **** in Slaver's Bay. Her dragons return. Dany leads Dothraki horde to Westeros

meanwhile at the wall

The red women is broken. That was the whole reveal. The visions in the flame to her now seem impossible. The god of light does god stuff and revives jon snow. Wildlings return with Jon's friend and they take Castle Black.

meanwhile way up north

Bran learns super old gods magic. In Season 7 or 8 uses his power to control dragons. and save the kingdoms from the White Walkers.
I wish we got my version of Bran.

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What if I told you Lyanna and Rhaegar (nice spelling, thanks m8) were married?

What do we know about Rhaegar? The only thing we learn from anyone who actually knew Rhaegar was when Selmy tells Dany that he was a good guy. Now, do you think Selmy would have high opinions of someone who kidnapped and raped a highborn lady? Also, why do we even see this scene talking about a guy that seemingly has no relevance to the show?

There's also the tidbit from Littlefinger about Rhaegar courting? Lyanna at a jousting tournament. Actually, I'm pretty sure this happened or I could have just made this up in my head.

What do we know about Robert? He is a drunk, womanizing warlord. He admits, although 19? years later that he was a ****ty husband and a bad ruler. I can only guess many of these negative traits existed when he was young.

So, your Lyanna. You potentially have a secret romance with a charming Prince. You can either run away with the Prince and elope, or stay and get married off like a pawn.

In this fantasy Jon is a legitimate son. Half Stark and Half Targ.
Not such a fantasy after all
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I also enjoyed reading this:

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lol dude the motivation for killing the bastards is one of the most obv things ever and least ambiguous in the entire show.

but have fun pretending ur just so clever u come up with super obscure theories that just happen to be wildly popular fan theories while at the same time missing the most basic plot points ever.
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"Robert's Rebellion was based on a lie."

Pretty interesting and important plot point that the show never addressed. Basically they butchered the entire R+L=J story line.

Whose lie was it? It was almost certainly Littlefinger.
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Littlefinger would have been about 14 years old when Robert's Rebellion started. He wasn't a player yet.

It's more accurate to say the rebellion was based on a misunderstanding. Robert Baratheon and Ned Stark reasonably concluded that Lyanna was kidnapped by Rheagar. Nobody lied to them about it and neither of them ever said anything they believed was untrue (until Ned after the rebellion was over).
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