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05-22-2019 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Dornish guy should've been like "OK and to be clear the last couple of people y'all supported for leadership roles were the lady that burned down King's Landing and the guy currently in prison for murdering that lady, correct? That is of course after those of you who supported the woman who blew up a church betrayed her. I'm with the fat kid, let's open the floor to slightly more options than you morons picking another tyrant."
or "the north can just say they are independent? yeah we'll do that too"
05-22-2019 , 05:24 PM
It would have made more sense if Drogon could smell dragon eggs hidden inside the iron throne and the burning caused them to hatch. Jon is then the new dragon daddy.

And a huge lol at the counsel being cool with Bran as King. Bran didn't even display his skills to anybody so no one even knows how much power he has.
05-22-2019 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Clarke's acting in that scene was incredible, too, she really worked overtime this season because they gave her like 20 episodes of character work in 5.5 episodes of screentime.
i agree for like 3 minutes i was like wow this feels like old GoT when she started talking about being a child and her dad telling her about how the iron throne was made. the silence in the ashed burned city with her standing there next to the throne, i dunno it was very fitting.
05-22-2019 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
"Sansa is the smartest person I know."

Based on what exactly?
Based on literally everyone else becoming barely functional ******s by the end of S7.

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05-22-2019 , 10:27 PM
Howland Reed made an appearance at the Great Council.
05-23-2019 , 12:51 AM
05-23-2019 , 05:37 AM
I like how Tyrion refers to Daenerys as 'Dany' during a conversation about killing her and saving the world from a tyrant.
05-23-2019 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Perfect.
05-23-2019 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MagnumMike 357

And a huge lol at the counsel being cool with Bran as King. Bran didn't even display his skills to anybody so no one even knows how much power he has.
Yeah but he got pushed out of a window and lived, that's a GREAT STORY! Plus, "Bran the Broken", the cool nickname practically writes itself! Obviously king material.

Here's another question... did everyone already know Bran got pushed out of a window? If they did, wouldn't they also know that Jaime did it? Or did Bran lie and tell people he fell? I can't remember. Or maybe like everything else it's not supposed to matter.
05-23-2019 , 05:00 PM
Freefolk on reddit is amazing. Never was able to go there before because they always had the spoilers, but now I'm enjoying the memes n stuff for the first time
05-23-2019 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
i cant be king, i am the three eyed raven now. i dont want anything. im not really a normal human anymore.

bran you have a good story. you be king.

that's why i am here.

fml.
Played the long game perfectly.

GTO

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05-23-2019 , 08:06 PM
05-23-2019 , 08:41 PM
“Council of Surviving Characters” was a killer line.
05-24-2019 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by hair loss at 19_
Freefolk on reddit is amazing. Never was able to go there before because they always had the spoilers, but now I'm enjoying the memes n stuff for the first time


The memes on r/freefolk have been the best part of this train wreck of a season
05-24-2019 , 09:31 AM
The best part of freefolk was having multiple things spoiled because the spoilers we're in the title and they showed up in my all feed
05-24-2019 , 06:25 PM
Would have been much better to have had Euron hit the dragon Dany was riding and have her die then. At least we would have got a holy **** moment. Would have been a very surprising death instead of the death we all expected. That would have left John in command with 1 dragon who he may or may not have been able to control. Would have made for a much more interesting story.

Also Dany's anti slavery narrative made no sense. All these seasons was she paying the soldiers? We're they free to just quit at any point?
05-24-2019 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Gurley Man
Would have been much better to have had Euron hit the dragon Dany was riding and have her die then. At least we would have got a holy **** moment. Would have been a very surprising death instead of the death we all expected. That would have left John in command with 1 dragon who he may or may not have been able to control. Would have made for a much more interesting story.

Also Dany's anti slavery narrative made no sense. All these seasons was she paying the soldiers? We're they free to just quit at any point?
Yes, she granted all of them their freedom and ordered them to choose their own names so they had a sense of identity. This was a major plot point when she acquired the Unsullied.

Missandei emphasized that all of her followers were free to leave and they obeyed her because she was the queen they had chosen (Season 7).
05-24-2019 , 10:14 PM
Pretty good theory from r/ASOIAF: remember all that stuff about pregnancy and heirs and stuff in season 7 that went absolutely nowhere? Well, this guy theorises that in the books, when Jon kills Dany, she will be pregnant with his child. D&D were setting up for that storyline, but ultimately decided it would be too brutal and would make audiences angry.

I like this theory because I don't know what else the explanation would be for the abandoned S7 chatter. Also, Bran sending Jon to the Wall mirrors a historical event in book canon. As his first act after being chosen as King by a council, Aegon V Targaryen exiled his bastard relative Bloodraven, aka Brynden Rivers, to the Wall. Bloodraven's crime? Kinslaying.
05-24-2019 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV

I like this theory because I don't know what else the explanation would be for the abandoned S7 chatter. .
The explanation is D&D are very bad writers. Nothing more.
05-24-2019 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
The explanation is D&D are very bad writers.
I mean that's literally what the theory is.
05-24-2019 , 10:40 PM
Apparently the original plan was to have Jorah survive the Battle for the Dawn/Winterfell. In the celebration that follows, he's celebrated as a true hero of the North and, as the last survivor of House Mormont, it's suggested that he can stay in the North and become the lord of Bear Island. This amplifies Dany's feeling of being alone. Also, there's a deleted scene where Missandei tells Dany about her and Grey Worm's plan to retired to a tropical island. Jorah agrees with Sansa that maybe the troops should get a break before heading off to KL.

The rest of Jorah's arc is to reinforce the Jon Snow role: Varys speaks to him about Dany's unfitness to lead but he still supports Dany (obv). Then at the end of the show, he joins Jon and becomes Lord Commander of the Night's Watch.

Ultimately they decided that this end doesn't make sense for Jorah, so they killed him off. I think they made the right choice there.
05-25-2019 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
Apparently the original plan was to have Jorah survive the Battle for the Dawn/Winterfell. In the celebration that follows, he's celebrated as a true hero of the North and, as the last survivor of House Mormont, it's suggested that he can stay in the North and become the lord of Bear Island. This amplifies Dany's feeling of being alone. Also, there's a deleted scene where Missandei tells Dany about her and Grey Worm's plan to retired to a tropical island. Jorah agrees with Sansa that maybe the troops should get a break before heading off to KL.

The rest of Jorah's arc is to reinforce the Jon Snow role: Varys speaks to him about Dany's unfitness to lead but he still supports Dany (obv). Then at the end of the show, he joins Jon and becomes Lord Commander of the Night's Watch.

Ultimately they decided that this end doesn't make sense for Jorah, so they killed him off. I think they made the right choice there.
I read that as well. I think it would have been better if Jorah was the one to kill Dany. Maybe Jon helps in some way, but Jorah is the one who actually sticks the knife in. We've got 8 seasons drilling in how much in love he is with Dany, so that would have been incredible.

I realize that's what they were trying to do with Jon, but he like just met her. So despite his words and acting, turning on Dany is never going to seem that hard to the viewer.
05-25-2019 , 01:30 AM
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I decide I really do like where all the characters ended up, I felt like most arcs were satisfying and paid off well. But it was really hampered by two things - the last season was way too rushed, and Jon and Dany had minimal onscreen chemistry.

Like, think about Jon / Dany, then think about the sexual tension between Jon & Ygritte, Jamie & Brienne, Tyrion & Shea, Rob and whoever his wife was, Bronn and the sand snakes. ****, even dany & yara greyjoy had better chemistry.
05-25-2019 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
I read that as well. I think it would have been better if Jorah was the one to kill Dany. Maybe Jon helps in some way, but Jorah is the one who actually sticks the knife in. We've got 8 seasons drilling in how much in love he is with Dany, so that would have been incredible.

I realize that's what they were trying to do with Jon, but he like just met her. So despite his words and acting, turning on Dany is never going to seem that hard to the viewer.
God no. I mean if they wanted to be consistent with the rest of the season where they make everyone do stupid **** they would never do, then OK.

Grey Worm would kill Dany before Jorah would. He didn't just love her, he worshiped her.

Jon is like the main character in the story, he has to do something important. He's an Azor Ahai figure and Dany is his Nissa Nissa.
05-25-2019 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
God no. I mean if they wanted to be consistent with the rest of the season where they make everyone do stupid **** they would never do, then OK.

Grey Worm would kill Dany before Jorah would. He didn't just love her, he worshiped her.

Jon is like the main character in the story, he has to do something important. He's an Azor Ahai figure and Dany is his Nissa Nissa.
Bolded is why it would have been great. You're imagining it with ****ty execution, which is undertstandable. They couldn't have it happen over one episode. There would have to be a multi-episode arc where Dany just goes full on mad Targ and is burning innocents with Drogon all over the place.

I agree that if they did the show exactly the same but just subbed in Jorah knifing her for Jon, that would not make sense. Jorah clearly gives her a pass on one massacre. You start piling those up and even Jorah would do it.

      
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