The scene where they picked Bran as the new King was legit one of the worst scenes I can remember seeing in a TV show, ever. Not one action or word of dialogue rang true.

Also I've never seen a show where several major characters died in the most uninteresting/boring ways possible. Cersei/Jamie crushed by rocks. Dany's death was as unexciting and cliche as it could have possibly been given it involved 2 major characters. We've seen the same death scene a million times before where two people embrace and then you hear a metal knife sound, and the person being stabbed looks confused up at the other person before silently falling to the floor.

Contrast that with some of the death scenes in earlier seasons - Ned, Joffrey, the red wedding, were all shocking and emotional. This was just trash.

The valonqar prophecy did not appear in the show.

Yup I mean jesus christ. Dorne was the kingdom that held out for like 150 years longer than any other when the Targaryens took over Westeros and the Dornish guy is just cool with a huge part of realm peacing out because some little girl wants to be a queen.

I've never seen this show and never will, but nah.

I liked when they had Davos basically admit that there was zero reason for him to even be part of the meeting or the vote but he was there anyway because whatever.

And unless I am mistaken, that meeting was not even convened to select a new king! I don't even know why they were all gathered there tbh. To get the for-some-reason-still-alive Jon Snow out of jail? Why did they all have to be there for that? Picking a new ruler wasn't even the plan until Tyrion suggested it and in 5 minutes, bingo! Bran the Broken. Tyrion could sell ice to an eskimo.

Yeah, the North just being like Nah, we good with no King. Was strange. I was waiting for the other rulers to be looking at each other saying "we can do that?". Like in Police Academy when the guys get buzz cuts and the other dude strolls in and asks for a little off the sides.

Also, Bran always looks blind to me, I thought he was blind for a few episodes and still had to remind myself he has sight when i was watching.

Maybe the Valonqar part of the prophecy is not literal in translation? It could be that Jamie having his hands around her "throat" at the point the roof caves in "choking" Cersei to death is the same prophecy with a little twist.

Jaime's ending sucks but the prophecy stuff I don't super care about. The reason he should have killed Cersei is less prophecy and more that that's the logical conclusion for the character to arrive at. It brings what's happening externally for him in harmony with what's happening internally, in a way that would complete Jaime's journey.

It's also pretty lol that Drogon did not burn up Jon on the spot, seeing as how he clearly knew his mother had just been murdered by him. The only goal this season seemed to be to let the fan favorites live. I guess if you judge the success of the finale by "hooray, Tyrion and Jon are still alive", then it was awesome.

Jon has Targ blood and therefore gets a pass, is the idea. Like they showed the dragons being spontaneously friendly to him before the R+L=J reveal, so it's not like it's totally out of the blue that he has diplomatic immunity. Like basically everything this season, it could have used a whole hell of a lot more setting up.

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I'm choosing to believe Davos' "I don't know if I get a vote but 'aye" was improvised and some editor snuck it in.

I don’t know how someone can claim no one did anything out of character in this episode. That whole meeting scene was bizarre. Greyworm definitely doesn’t accept a bunch of people he has never pledged any sort of allegiance too to pick a new ruler that he’ll obey and allow to stop him from giving justice to the killer of his queen.

Anyway, I don’t really care about the overall plot choices here. I think they could have been excellent. But why they didn’t take 2 seasons to do this is baffling to me (except they wanted certain things like Dany’s death to be the last episode). But it made for an impossible situation with the writers. The period from death of Dany to picking of a new King could have been so much better and written in an awesome way. You know, the type of stuff that they handled really well in the first half of the series.

I think the most satisfying way to rewrite this ending is to see Bran as an evil villain, sees himself as Ned's 5th favorite kid even before he's crippled, so he used his greenseering powers(which, and the showrunners apparently forgot this, included the ability to MANIPULATE THE PAST) to set in part a decade long scheme to install himself as king.

He warged into the boar that killed Robert.

I’m in.

This sums up why it is so bad well. Writing is so hilariously inconsistent and random.

Just glad it is over. Bring on the books to take the taste of this out of my mouth ffs. GRRM sitting pretty anyway, no matter what he does with books it is going to seem amazing compared to show.

Yeah can’t wait to hear what is up to these days.

Its been terrible for 2 seasons and ropy since they left the books so its not a surprise that this season stinks. The 2 writers are not very good lets be honest, all the character development and writing was there for them but as soon as they stray into the unknown it completely falls apart and it just keeps getting worse.

Davos's comment was the only part about that vote that made any sense.

1) Why does Brienne get a vote - she is only a Knight and not the head of her family (which is also a minor family).

2) Why does Sam get a vote? He can't be the Head of House Tarly due to the fact he took the black and became a Maester.

3) Why does the Vale get two votes, but the Riverlands, Iron Islands, and Dorne only get one?

to answer your questions...

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The last two books blew as well.

Yeah let's break down the vote a little more. There should be 8 votes once the North leaves, King's Landing, Dorne, Iron, Reach, Riverlands, Stormlands, Vale, and the Lannister holdings. Several of those didn't get a vote and several of them got multiple votes(or Tyrion invented superdelegates).

I think they should've had a "who the **** are these guys" explanation for that council because I literally don't know who the guy between Sam and Edmure was.

Also lol I didn't catch it live but they left a water bottle in several shots from the council. These people are just ****ing incompetent.
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This episode was one of the worst of the series, if not the worst. It was on par with BSG and Dexter as far as finales go. This is the only thing I’ve found so far that’s made me feel remotely better about it.

“Jon Snow is Azor Ahai and the Prince *NOT the King* that was Promised

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Darkness lay over the world and a hero, Azor Ahai, was chosen to fight against it. To fight the darkness, Azor Ahai needed to forge a hero's sword. He labored for thirty days and thirty nights until it was done. However, when he went to temper it in water, the sword broke. He was not one to give up easily, so he started over.

Jon wanted to save the world from the dead. First, he united mankind against the White Walkers – Wildlings, the North, and Dany’s army. He plunged his army into the white walkers (ice a.k.a. water). But the Long Night was not over. The world was not saved; a great threat still held the world in its clutches. So at the head of his new army, he drove South.

The second time he took fifty days and fifty nights to make the sword, even better than the first. To temper it this time, he captured a lion and drove the sword into its heart, but once more the steel shattered.

Cersei, the lion. Jon drove the new army he had united straight into the heart of the lion, but the world was not saved, for the peace shattered as Dany prepared to usher in a new age of war and conquest. The Long Night was just beginning.

The third time, with a heavy heart, for he knew beforehand what he must do to finish the blade, he worked for a hundred days and nights until it was finished. This time, he called for his wife, Nissa Nissa, and asked her to bare her breast. He drove his sword into her living heart, her soul combining with the steel of the sword, creating Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes. Her blood, soul, strength, and courage went into the steel of the sword, creating Lightbringer. Following this sacrifice, Lightbringer was as warm as Nissa Nissa had been in life.

Devastated, Jon knew what he had to do. He drew close his lover and asked her to bear her heart to him, her love. Then in despair, he stabbed his sword into her breast. Dany inspired thousands. Through all the inspiration that her blood, soul, strength and courage had poured into her conquest, her dream to break the wheel, he forged Lightbringer, the New Era of peace in the kingdom, freeing the world from the Long Night of war, death, and destruction.

Once Azor Ahai fought a monster. When he thrust his sword through the belly of the beast its blood began to boil. Smoke and steam poured from its mouth, its eyes melted and dribbled down its cheeks and its body burst into flame.”

Perhaps the Iron Throne was in fact the monster; it represented the Wheel. The system of rule by right of birth – the Iron Throne. And with Jon’s final thrust, and he caused Drogon to burn the Iron Throne, melting it away, and the old system with it. A new system of the kingdom choosing its ruler began, perhaps a new era of peace and prosperity.

Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice.

His story represents true heroism, total sacrifice for the greater good: giving up his family, his friends, his lovers, his own life, his claim to the throne, and his only reward was exile. Jon was the true Prince, the rightful heir to the throne, but he could not be King. He did, however, unite the world in the war for the dawn, saving mankind from the Long Night of destruction by Ice or by Fire. Jon Snow is Azor Ahai.”

+1

related - i only just realized that this was Robin Arryn:




damn Sansa, you coulda had that

the Dorthdraki ran towards the night king, it went totally dark/silent like they were all dead. Now, apparently they came back to life and wandering around Westeros eating street food.