I feel used.
Like a woman must feel when her husband just sticks it in and finishes within 10 seconds without any love/care.
FU D&D

loool

There was not even a heel turn here. One minute she is the breaker of chains and champion of the downtrodden. The next she hears bells, loses her mind, and burns up little children.

At no point did they lay any legitimate groundwork for this. It's not really defensible from a screenwriting standpoint imo.

My sense is that they decided the only way out of the Jon vs Dany as eventual ruler dilemma, was to have one of the 2 become a baddie. So they wrote the show around that.

They figured out an ending they wanted to happen. wrote backwards without a care in the world of the previous seasons. Then when it was finished, they rewatched the series and tried to connect some dots to make it seem plausible for when they had to do end of episode interview. If they couldnt find anything, they would just make up dumb logic like "forgetting about the fleet".

And people like elrazor has fell for it.

That video clip ^ just shows how trash D&D are

she just found out that jon, tyrion, and varys had betrayed her. her second dragon was killed. missandrei was executed. she burns things down on the regular

and people are all "she had no reason to snap like that"

Burning a whole city with your own soldiers in the middle isn't overkill ?

Ah that explains it.

sure. To ignore all the innocents until they surrender and because you heard a **** bell ring. Nope nope nope.

Dany going dark is straight out of the books, it's been a pet theory on fan forums since the day ADWD came out basically. Does anyone care about me posting book lore anymore? I've posted a couple things spoilered, summary:



Edit: But agree her burning KL for no reason has no motivation even after the heel turn. That's again because of missing plots in the show. They tried to do the endgame faithfully but hadn't done the setup.

It would have been more interesting if her army had been decimated by the NK. Say 2000 unsullied, no dathraki. North has 10K fighters.
Even after she destroys the navy, the Golden company, and the city walls, Cercei refuses to surrender. Dany doesn't have enough troops to take the city from the Lannister army. So she burns a wide path to the Red Keep and lays waste to it. Heel turn accomplished.

Make the destruction a rational decision in Dany's mind.

Arguably the 4 most compelling main characters still alive entering this season were Dany, Cersei, Jon, and Jaime. And they pretty much butchered all of their storylines. Cersei did nothing but stare out a window. Jon was basically a high-priced extra, all he did was wander around muttering "she's my queen". Jamie did nothing of note except I guess bone Brienne of Tarth. And Dany became a villain in five minutes, after being a main hero of the show for 7 seasons.

Probably the only character left to care about is Arya at this point, who has managed to remain someone to root for. I give the actress credit for that since the writing is so bad.

Why was dany so popular? people could relate to her
With her hunger for power, with her frustrations and disappointments along the way.
A human being with a good heart and a tough past who wanted to accomplish something.
That's the "ego success" story people identify with, and then?
They dehumanize a character they have build for 8 seasons within seconds. That's just ridiculous.

think we can still root for tyrion, tyrion was great from start to finish imo

Tyrion has been pretty pointless for 3 seasons now. It's too bad they deprived him of an awesome death scene a few seasons back, when fans still would have been devastated. I think he will likely die this week but I don't think it will have the impact it would have had a few seasons ago.

The smartest man in westeros has made mistakes at every opportunity past couple seasons, especially this one. He gets played all the time. Theyve butchered his character. Hes been so dumbed down to only make cock jokes. Not rooting for him.

Davos is the only guy whos worth anything anymore lol

Tyrion has become a complete moron. The mission beyond the wall was his idea, and it was probably the single dumbest thing that has been done in the entire show.

Then he came up with the genius plan of just asking Cersei nicely to surrender. Then when that failed, he came up with the genius plan of once again asking Cersei nicely to surrender. Then when that failed, he came up with the genius plan of asking Jaime to ask Cersei nicely to surrender.

A lot of people, and I blame recap/fan culture here, have completely lost the ability to actually critique fiction as fiction.

Just because someone was foreshadowed doesn't mean it was a good idea or that it was executed well. When people say Dany torching the city "came out of nowhere" they don't mean that they personally were surprised by the development, they are saying the show didn't put in remotely the buildup necessary to have a protagonist commit war crimes for fun.

(A lot of woker dip****s on Twitter are trying to defend it as some "horrors of war, man" commentary, but, uh, the war ended with no civilian casualties. The actual message here is that war can be conducted with surgical precision and civilian casualties are caused by one-time failures of leadership! That's not good!)

I think the cast will have less trouble being typecast going forward, considering most of them have had to play 2 entirely different versions of a character in GoT.

I don’t know what show you all have been watching to think that Danaerys’ burning of KL is out of character or represents a heel turn. If you put out a questionnaire at the end of each season of GoT asking what the chances are that Dany eventually burns KL to the ground the average answer would be double digits and it would have gone up after each successive season. Yes, she’s conflicted at times (like a person) but she wants to burn and win.

Danaerys has been wanting to burn everyone who stands in her way ever since Drogon first burped a flame. She only restrains that urge because of her advisors and every time she shows restraint she gets max rekt and ends up burning everyone up anyway. She wanted to fly Drogon to KL and burn the RedKeep before she even had an army and that decision would have worked out better for everyone most likely.

Also, how come nobody ever acknowledges how cool it is to watch fire breathing dragons burninate the world? This is a fantasy show and there is a lot of cool fantasy stuff being depicted. Seems like every so often us critics should mention that it looks great. I say thank you for the visual content, and the story is compelling also.

the city surrender and she still go kill Cersei with some innocent casualty = Dani got mad queen and is believable
Dani go Mass genocide killing possibly 1 million innocent people in a super long sequence that feel so boring at some point that most watchers are wondering when that trainwreck will stop and thinking you are glad only one episode is left = what we got

When the execution is that terrible let s not pretend that something makes sense.

The bell was terrible, the last jedi was terrible, even if you think they could possibly have done something good they didn't and we judge on execution and not intent and ideas.

How is this complicated? Dany had won, plain and simple. She’d burned everyone that needed to be burned. Every time she’d talked about incinerating KL, it was in the context of a military action, ie defeating Cersei as easily and thoroughly as possible. It was never about destruction for its own sake. Given all that, her unprovoked attack on the citizenry wasn’t so much mad as simply not credible, because the show hasn’t done the groundwork to make her actions believable.

I think an earlier poster has hit on the real reason for Danny’s rampage - so that viewers are satisfied, or at least not upset, when she meets her downfall.

its like you dont read any of the posts.

Oh all those innocent people surrendering were really standing in her way right? jfc. That paragraph with your first sentence is true. Youve clearly been watching some show where you think everyone dany is killing are innocent and not the allies who have committed treason or enemies that do wrong to the innocent.

She is "mysa" to the innocent (obv not to KL but it shows how much she cares about the innocent). And she goes and slaughters them all AFTER she won, out of nowhere. Not before

Simple question:
Is Dany rational?
What was Dany's reason for destroying the city and killing hundreds of thousands of her future subjects after they surrendered?

if Dany had not burned KL to the ground and instead just sat on the throne, then people who were not burned to a crisp are going to be hmm, actually we like Jon Snow better than you and furthermore he has a better claim, so gtfo back to Pentos.

There was a ton of exposition about this exact point, so I'm not sure what people are missing here.

She’d have just singlehandedly liberated them from a hated ruler. That inspires both love and fear. Plus she’d already agreed not to burn everything if KL surrendered.