I feel like she didnt really do any of those things though. The writers want us to think she did, but they have no idea how to show it.

Sansa doesn't want the Iron Throne. She wants the North: safe, secure, and independent. She wants to control her fate. That's what she learned from the likes of the Queen of Thorns.

Random guesses -- Jamie, Cersei, Dany, Euron, The Hound, Varys, The Mountain all die. Tyrion becomes ruler of KL and/or the realm. Sansa rules Winterfell/North. Jon declines to rule and returns to the Wall/true North and is reunited with Ghost/Tormund.

No idea about Arya, maybe she ends up with Gendry after all. Davos either goes with Jon or is Tyrion's hand.

Without exaggeration, every single scene Sansa has been in for 2-3 seasons has had the primary purpose of showing how smart and strong and in control she is, usually while consolidating or gathering power. They not only show her being smart, usually another character comments on it. The only possible exception is Arya's return to Winterfell, because we can't be sure how much is contrived.

Not noticing this is pretty incredible imo, it's akin to saying Arya is a sweet girl who wouldn't harm a fly.

I've noticed it, it's just not believable. Every time they show her doing something I think how dumb she is.

Yes, she's more a figurehead - it's like saying the Queen of England orchestrated Brexit.

Not being a "little bird" was more just her losing her innocence - not gaining any intellectual ability.

Her asking "what about the North" with Dany was just her being selfish for her own interests - and it was dumb to bring it up before the war.

She also has been arguing with Jon about aligning with Dany when it was the only chance they had to defeat the NK.

I see the showrunners are adding dialogue to change the way she is perceived by viewers, but their mainly just words - really no evidence of her doing anything clever.

After 10 years of TV shows and a bunch of books we probably know what has to happen in the last two episodes: Someone we love has to die, there has to be a surprise but the surprise will have been foreshadowed, there has to be someone in charge, and everyone important has to end up somewhere-

Die: Danaerys is the clear tragic figure with the most violent internal conflict.

Surprise: Tyrion is a Targaryen. It’s been foreshadowed. My guess is he rides Drogon after Dany dies.

Ruler: with Dany gone, Jon rules whether he likes it or not. But he doesn’t want to and happens to have an uncle who would be good at it. If Jon legitimizes Tyrion as a Targ he also creates someone with a better claim to the throne than himself. Kind of cool the way that works out.

Endplace: Jon goes north where he clearly belongs. He could be KotN or LoW or chill with the wildlings. Sansa could be Queen in KL, doesn’t even need a new marriage certificate. Arya loves Bravos. When she first arrived there she had a look in her eyes like she was coming home.

That sequence seems to check all the boxes IMO.

Saw an interview with GRMM where he said something along the lines of "he doesn't change his story/twists just because some part of the community figured it out, foreshadowing is there for a reason"

D&D interview "we put arya as night king killer because it is an unexpected shock twist"

Well since he didn't take a wife or father children, he at least adhered to the letter of the law there.

They're going to have to retcon the **** out of the series to get bolded to work. It's well established who mom is given the events surrounding his birth. Unless she was cheating on Tywin with a Targaryen, it seems implausible. If some Targs just wanted to secretly place him with the Lannisters for some reason, then why would mom to die in childbirth.

Tywin repeatedly says Tyrion isn’t his son. He only ever says otherwise when Tyrion is holding a crossbow and if you watch that scene closely it looks like Tywin is just saying whatever it will take to save his life.

Also the dragons only like Dany, Jon, and Tyrion.

Tyrion as a Targaryen is a silly theory IMO.

False. When Tyrion asks Tywin why he made Tyrion the Hand, Tywin says it's because he is his son.

Also, more than saying "you are my son" is the reminder that he killed Tywin's wife/Cersei's mother. I would put the chances that Tyrion is revealed a Targ in the show universe at close to 0, even if that was the original intention by GRRM.

1.) Four dragons on the astrolabe this season. At this point it's hard to give the show credit for anything but that has to mean something. Right....right?

2.) Preview for next episode shows Tyrion with a stone dragon head as a back drop

3.) He didn't get roasted in Mereen when he had to unlock the dragons while Dany was gone

4.)

5.) Maybe that was the point of scene with Tyrion and Bran in Ep 2 which has had zero payoff so far.....or the showrunners could be idiots. Yea probably the latter.

Personally I'm rooting for a literal stone dragon to spawn from Dragon Stone....Tyrion to hop on that bad boy and start ravaging fools; starting with Euron.

After the battle he'll be named King and he can get back with Sansa and finally consummate the marriage; they'll have a child of Ice and Fire that will rule for a 1000 years and Tyrion can retire to his vineyard.

I'm a huge sucker I guess.

People think the mad king raped Tywin's wife and Tyrion was the result

The four dragons shows Dany and the birth of her three dragons. Dany, as a Targ, is also depicted as a dragon, because people are always depicted as their sigil on the astrolabe.

Tyrion being a Targ would wreck the plot between Tyrion and Tywin, the point of which is that while Tywin would prefer to think of Jaime as being most similar to him, it's actually Tyrion in many ways who most resembles Tywin. That's the point of finding him in bed with Shae. The point of Tywin's little asides questioning Tyrion's lineage isn't that it's true, it's that that's what Tywin would like to believe. We also have too many secret Targaryens already. In the books there's another Targ claimant.

More books info, which I'll spoiler for those who don't want to know:

I'm sure the showrunners can concoct some bull**** story about how Tyrion is a Targaryen. I think they've demonstrated that they can do whatever the **** they want, no matter how implausible it may be.

My main point is that doing so will really just be nonsensical and inconsistent with the story that has been told so far. Granted, if they do it, some fanbois are going to nod along and say "It totally makes sense". But it doesn't and it can't.

Hey we don't know that Bran didn't tell Tyrion that his mom was raped by Aerys during their fireside chat! We don't even know what they discussed!

I hear you on these. But there are benign explanations for all of them. And when I watched the Tyrion/Tywin scenes, it seemed clear to me that Tywin knew that Tyrion was his son but was very disappointed by Tyrion’s dwarfism. Tyson’s “your nonson of mine” was in the nature of disappointment, not an observation about physiological reality.

I’d take a 10:1 line against Tyrion. Being a Targaryen.

As an outside bet I'm going for Arya to kill (or at least fight) Jon Snow.

This has been foreshadowed several times, from Jon giving her Needle, to S7 Sansa: "when Jon sees you his heart will probably stop" and "Arya will kill anyone who betrays her family" and then Arya's veiled threat to Jon in the Godswood.

Otoh, I don't see how this credibly plays out over 2 episodes, and most probably only one episode.

yeah i thought it was dope. super entertaining, i wish more main chars had died but i still loved this ep.

people are dumb as **** what can you expect. memories of slugs. anyway i thought it was perfectly fitting. they literally explained their plan before lol.

Site ate my reply.

tldr: I don't like my side even at 10:1, if I'm honest about my predictions this season. The fact I think an event is even possible has been an excellent contrarian indicator thus far.