Yep excellent post.

I remember Ed Sheehan meeting Arya in the forest, where she says she’s going to King’s Landing to kill the queen. But I don’t remember him after that, so I’m clearly missing something ... what, exactly?

+1 to ChrisV’s post.

This is how royal succession used to work in England also.

No, they had no claim had Joffrey been a true heir. Their claims were fully based on him not being one.

It's just a winky face call back. Has absolutely no plot relevance.

Nice catch I totally missed this

The claim to the throne stuff doesn't even truly matter. It's a might makes right society.

If Jon Snow were not a Targaryen, and remained King in the North, and then after defeating the NK, went on to defeat Cersei and/or Daenerys and their armies and take the Iron Throne, then he would be King of the Seven Kingdoms despite having basically no true "claim" to the throne.

King Robert the usurper had basically no claim to the throne and took it by force, with the help of Ned. In retrospect, it's kind of strange for Ned to be so concerned with "true claims" to the throne, considering he helped install an usurper. Yes, he had personal reasons, but not "legitimate" ones, in terms of royal power and succession.

The point about Robert isn't true. He was picked by the rebels in large part due to the fact that he had a legit claim on the throne - through his mother having some Targ blood. It wasn't a strong claim, but it was better than Ned, Jon Arryn, and Hoster Tully who had no royal blood and those no claim at all. Assuming all Targ royal family were no longer valid candidates for throne, I think he might have even had the strongest claim of anyone still in Westeros.

It is possible he might have been chosen even without this claim, but it was certainly a point the rebels thought was important to give their new King some degree of credibility with the realm.

There are also plenty of other examples of people blindly following titles and claims, as opposed to might. Just look at when Edmure Tully is able to get all the Tully's at Riverun to surrender.

Speaking of, what is going on at Riverrun? Didn't the Unsullied practically pass right by it otw to Casterly Rock?

Riverrun was being ruled over by the Freys, and they're all dead now. No idea who would've stepped up, but everyone's probably busy getting ready for winter.

Makes you wonder what happened to Edmure, last I heard he was put back in his cell after the seige of Riverrun and they could have had a scene of Arya releasing him. They didn't so I'm guessing that entire storyline is just over with and just a non factor.

either that or he has some **** planned already as the conversation with Sansa is hinting at that tbh. Along the lines of "we both know you aren't so stupid to just believe Cersei"


ye fully agree, it's the reason this show was really good once and so different to other shows, far more relatable because it is more like actual life.
characters full of inner conflict and decisions with actual consequence(death a possiblity at any second)


show now?
Jon with random beyond the wall adventure against the whole army of death, whatever he won't die now anyway

jon blindly running into death vs Ramsay? whatever he will survive somehow at the last second

Got to say the new intro was superb, really enjoyed the details and the way it went through the wall and into winterfell then onto house umber. I suspect this will slightly change throughout the episodes.

I also suspect the war starts at the end off the next episode with Sansa ****ing up leading to many getting it (solidifies the not so most intelligent).

A couple of gripes though as always..

1. I wish the show was Atleast 9/10 seasons. With a few episodes for after the great wars.
2. Bron. He could be used far better.
3. The 4 main Characters are inexperienced actors & it shows through (Sansa, Danny, John Snow, Aria) with them working with such greats as Jamie, Cersei, Littlefinger, Tyrone, The hound, Varys etc.



A comedy classic would be for Tyrone to get his balls burned off so that he & Varys can drink wine & Tell jokes about their life's into old age together.

Characters I hope survive are The Hound, Davos, Tyrone, Varys, Aria, John S, Bran, Tormund/Brienne, Samwell & Gendry.

Kinda hating how LotR Two Towers-y it's feeling.

And Tyrion better swerve and heel turn by assisting Cersei as it's the only non character assassination explanation for believing she'll be coming to join the good guys any minute now.

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Same with Rickon Stark, right? What ever happened to shaggydog?

ramsey bolton got them iirc.

Shaggydog got beheaded and served up by the Umbers to the Bolton bastard when Rickon was given to the bastard.

Speaking of dogs, I was just wondering what happened to Jon Snow's wolf, we havn't seen him for a while.

chilling with Nymeria:

Apparently it's a pain in the ass to do scenes with it, they have to use CGI a lot and it's really expensive.

Yep. I was thinking of the books, maybe.

Why don't they just train a real wolf?

Sam inserting himself like that would be the woat

as would wasting time on that in general

Here are my predictions:

Danny will kill Jon or he will be injured in the battle and she will leave him to die. It will come to light that Tyrion is a Targareon. Remember that Danny chose to be Queen over staying in the daydream with her love (she is her father)....Jon will choose love over being King and he will die.
Tyrion and Sansa are married still so she will be the Queen. Tyrion will kill Cersi and then maybe get killed himself and Sansa will just be queen(Arya saying Sansa is the smartest = Sansa will have the iron throne, not that she is actually the smartest. Arya will be hand of the Queen. Everyone will retreat to the iron islands

that does happen a lot in politics, peeps movin from the oposition to actlly holdin a place in goverment... or rock musicians when theyre no longer dealin with depression so they hit an impass tryin to put out good new material hmm

*also just thinkin im sorta thrown off by how danys handlin this viserion thing, so she finds out hes gone full zombie dragon and shes like idgaf do you think its an acting fail rather than crappy script? kinda twitches her eyebrows a bit and life goes on even tho the night king is now ridin one of her children its a big think