The idea that a major house could be killed off by 2-3 kids dying is silly, from a historical standpoint.

This wasn't exactly a rare occurrence within royal and noble families. Whenever it happened they'd just find relatives to continue the main bloodline.

Uncles, cousins, second cousins, whatever it took. There's gotta be some distant Tyrell and Tarly cousins out there somewhere.

Sam is now a lock to die before he can tell Jon (or maybe anyone) who he is.

Nah, Dumb and Dumber said during the inside the episode bit that Jon finding out he's the heir will cause conflict between him and Dany. Everything they predict happens on the show, unfortunately.

I just rewatched this. There's nothing pervy about it, and nothing that indicates hostility to Danaerys. He looks thoughtful, as though he is considering the consequences of what's going on behind the door.

I'd go opposite of this. Families were constantly killed off by both lack of male children and death/murder. And when it was murder, there was always the possibility that the murderer takes the spoils, so F distant family members.

The Romanovs would be a last 100 years example. Just watch Borgia, you'll see several others on par and greater than the Tarly family that just disappear in a 10 year period around 1500.

Sadly this is almost certainly spot on. The show has embraced made for tv cheap conflict recently.

Everyone will find out Jon is the rightful Targryn heir, Dany will get butthurt and defensive about it even though Jon will insist he has no interest in taking the throne.

The show will probably end with her getting pregnant and the two of them chosing to rule together.

the tyrion shot at the end really confused me, its GOTTA be there for some sort of foreshadowing...if its not then that was just a complete ****ing waste of ****ing time.


is it true we wont see the rest until 2019??????????

Just found a little hidden gem while we wait. It's called "The Last Kingdom" on bbc. I think Netflix has the first season. Worth the watch for sure.

Why do the dead want to go to Winterfell exactly? Food? Supplies??

The biggest plot holes exposed this season are in peoples lives when they are getting buthurt about a show about dragons and zombies not working out exactly how they want.

Every season has had it's flaws, and 7 is no different, but it's been one of the stronger seasons imo and certainly a lot better than S6.

would the night king risk flying ahead of his slowass horde of zombies?

D&D are looking for S8 writers.

You should submit the above sample.

It was very good.

From what I see online it is not clear yet. The release could be in August 2018 at the earliest and in 2019 at the latest.

Tyrion advised Danaerys to break up with her lover Daario Naharis because he would have been a liability in the Seven Kingdoms. If she is to rule in Westeros, she needs to make alliances and the best way to alliances is with marriage. Tyrion has shown he would rather she be single/available to help take the crown.

couple comments on some of the complaints people have had.

re: Littlefinger's plotting not making sense.
In a way its hard to know how he planned to play Sansa. There is no way to know Arya and Bran would show up. Beyond this, there is no way to know Arya is a trained assassin and Bran is the three eyed raven. His long term goal was to sit on the iron throne. At some point, risky long shots have to be played to make that happen.

re: Bran knowing everything
So my take on Bran's abilities is not that he knows everything. Its that he has the ability to see anything. What I mean is he has the ability to go back and see anything that has happened, but does not know everything. for example, once Sam tells him about the annulment and wedding, he can go back and see it, but if he doesn't know to look for it, then he just doesn't. Same thing with the littlefinger stuff. he wouldn't just instantly know about all of littlefinger's scheming, but Sansa could have asked Bran to go back and look at certain things.
This would kind of make sense, in that when Bran told littlefinger chaos is a ladder, that would mean Sansa was already on to him and had Bran go back and look at littlefinger's previous actions.
Just a couple thoughts.

I feel like it's the other way around, really. Because there is only one season left, the writing is butchered. Simply not enough air time for clean plots resolution. GoT needs at the very least 2x10 episodes more imo.

HBO is seriously ****ing with GoT's legacy right now. For the first time, from the start of this season, I seriously regret not having read the books.

Not sure how having read the books would help? lol. We're not at all sure the books are ever getting a conclusion.

Also, here's the dirty little secret of the books: 1, 2, 3 are great, 4 & 5 are ****ing boring. They go in completely the other direction from this season of the show. They create new and boring characters nobody cares about, so they can star in new and boring subplots nobody cares about, while getting the main plots bogged down in pointless detail. As an example of one of the new and boring subplots that made it into the show (although not starring a new character), Arya in Braavos. Went on WAY TOO LONG in the show, right? That's because in the books, she's been there for 2 whole books already and is still firmly there at the end of the last book. There are sample chapters out from the next book in which she is still chilling with the Faceless Men.

To give you an exemple, I've read The Dark Tower series and loved it. Now I can watch the (horrible) movie and most likely mediocre TV show to come without feeling too bad about it as I've got to trully enjoy the story. Got the best out of it, if you like.

Tyrion looking concerned about Jon and Dany didn't strike me weird as it did some other people.

I'm guessing he views it as a potential complication they don't need.

He wanted them to be allies but them being lovers introduces a lot of complications and potential pitfalls.

It's just Tyrion thinking of the political consequences of Jon and Dany having a relationship.

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ChrisV gets a pass. He is a solid poster and is able to keep his mouth shut when it comes to book stuff relevant to the show.

It's not like I only watch to see main characters get killed off, but it just felt cheesy to me that with all the s**t that happened this season, only Littlefinger died.

The idea that they were surrounded by the army of the dead - including the Night King, who was right there watching the whole thing - and not a single character of note died - was very unlike the GoT I had gotten used to.

Just seems like they decided to cater to the audience by making any fan fav characters untouchable. I mean, Jaime dying while trying to kill Dany would have been epic. So would have Cersei ordering the Mountain to kill Tyrion.

Clearly you are not familiar with the concept of Chekov's Concerned-Stare-at-a-Door-Behind-Which-Two-People-are-****ing

I've read two competing fan theories since Sunday, one states that Tyrion is in love with Dany (lots of evidence to support this) and Tyrion had a complete change of heart upon learning that Cersei has a bun in the oven (also possibly this but less likely imo). He has to be up to something, otherwise there's no reason to show that at all. A Tyrion heel turn has mega-high rustlage potential though so root hard for that imo

I asked ChrisV to not post here anymore, but if other people (like myself) are cool with him staying, then I support it.