No one here play Zelda? I took Tyrion creeping as him worried the wheel won't break.

And lol at all the hate, like someone said 2+2er's are miserable people and anti-fanboys so they won't look uncool

Or the more likely explanation is that the Night King just has complete control over his wights and could have the dragon licking his balls if he wanted.

+1. I mean it was better than last week, but still so much horrible dialogue and zero surprises plot-wise. The opposite of what this show was built on. The great acting, CGI, and cinematography are the only things keeping this from being completely unwatchable.

along this line, I wonder if we see if Dany can still control her dragon even after WW takeover - kind of a superpower vs superpower thing.

It's been hinted at that the NK can see the future. That would make a lot of the WW actions more sensible.

Littlefinger knew a couple of episodes ago that Bran could see portions of the past, did he not? And if that's true, why didn't Littlefinger anticipate that Sansa/Arya/Bran would figure out either his present machinations or his past betrayals?

In the moment, I liked that scene well enough. But it doesn't really hold up to any deep scrutiny.

Yep, he should have boogied out of town right at "chaos is a ladder". Hindsight is 20/20 but LF was a real dummy to stick around after that.

The fact that it didn't tip LF into altering his plans is proof just how fuzzy the writing is this season. LF getting outwitted by the Starks girls was weak to begin with, and as a result there was pretty much no reason at all for the chaos is a ladder scene.

it's one thing to criticize the show, but another to totally AIDS up a thread like some have done; namely Clovis, Heroball, and darthwager.

Can this forum ban posters from particular threads? It would be nice just to clean this place up.

As far as Littlefinger goes, many of you clearly had an inflated idea of his characters' importance. This story is not about him and never was

Clovis deserves a permaban if he makes another political post here. I suspect the thread is going to go quiet pretty soon, though, seeing as the next season isn't coming on until 2019.

The story may not have been about him, but he was obviously an important piece of the puzzle. I don't know how many times this needs to be said (hell, Bran said it in last nights ep), all of the events that have transpired for 7 seasons happened bc of wheels LF put in motion. I'm not sure it's possible to understate his importance to the world of Westeros.

What if all this is a ploy to the real Great War that's coming. The night king wins. Winter is here and incest baby is birthed amongst salt and smoke. Prince that was promised foreshadowing/symbolism vs the oncoming winter. Cut to black

So Theon is sailing to the Iron Islands to save Yara, who is on a ship headed to Ethos. Sounds about right for the Greyjoy storyline in this show.

Someone told me that they read the writers have already written the last season so wouldn't surprise me if they were simply writing backwards towards plot points to get them to where they needed to be for Season 7 part 2. I'll be curious to see if this season actually works a bit better if you binge thru all 13 episodes when its all done.

"A lone wolf dies but the pack survives."

You sure about that Sansa? Rob and Ricon are dead, Jon is not a Stark, and Bran is a cripple with no interest in titles or presumably women. Tough to see how the Stark name carries on once the current generation passes away. Maybe Bran can somehow regain his identity a bit more and get with Meera, but seems like a longshot at this point. R.I.P. house Stark.

GoT has been about the slow burn and revealing interesting twists and turns for main characters. Now that everyone has developed into what they're going to be, it's a different show. Every episode is about payoff, so of course it feels different.

We've known these characters for 7 years. Everything they do seems "predictable," if it's not, then it feels awkward or rushed.

Big LOL @ anyone who thinks GRRM is ever going to write another word. He's a fat old troll who's so rich now he dgaf and will probably die soon.

I assumed Jon's whole speech to Theon about being a Greyjoy and a Stark (being both / not choosing) was self referential ie he'll still maintain the Stark name and family.

He's never taken the stark name..

He also thought he was a bastard

Edit: slightly typo in "still maintain", meant when he finds out about his parents he probably will identify as both Stark and Targ (he literally just told Theon that he didn't need to make the impossible choice between Stark and Greyjoy / could be both).

anyone else thinking tyrion might of made a heel turn and teamed up with cersei?

1. His strategy against the lannister armies was terrible
2. In the battle field he was clearly routing for Jamie to survive
3. He finds out cersei is prego and scene cuts
4. He goes back to arena with deal made with Cersei
5. Cersei is going back out of the deal, use it to her advantage and better her position
6. Scene at the end when he was watching Jon/Dany , he was giving multiple weird looks.

Again, got a Walking Dead vibe. It's almost like they were up at 2 am and the script was due at 8 am. Not terrible, but there were times when I felt like fast forwarding. That's never really happened with GoT. It's the norm for WD though...

and oh god, the Theon stuff was just awful. No one cares about him.

kordol,

I like it!

I don't think #1 was intentional, and #2 of course he doesn't want his brother to die, he loves him and has nothing against him. But yeah something is up with him.

A lot of this is explainable by other stuff / the general weirdness of their lives, but the Cersei prego jump cut thing feels important in retrospect. Right before that Tyrion does remind her that he always loved the children. I think at first glance the viewer is meant to take it as Cersei reconsidering her actions in light of the potential to keep the Lannister name alive; in retrospect, knowing she had other plans all along, maybe it's Tyrion who is most impacted by this revelation.

Still, him fully conspiring with her to get rid of Jon and Dany feels like a stretch, but maybe he thinks he is at least helping them survive even if Dany will eventually rule, and she is using him.

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whats your problem with me?? I've had nothing but love for this show, this last ep was a let down. am I not aloud to say so??

The last time he saw Jamie before that it was when Jamie freed him and helped him escape his death sentence. They also had that pretty good scene about their ******ed cousin who smashed beetles.

So why would be not be routing for Jamie to survive at that point?