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08-27-2017 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp11
The spectacle **** was never what made the show good. It's the STAKES of the spectacle, when it finally happened, that made it good. They didn't do enough to build up the stakes such that when we saw the thrilling ****, it felt like it mattered.
Writers can't help that GRRM takes 6 years to write each book. I mean, what are ya gonna do?
08-27-2017 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Too much nuance for a trumpkin like awval.
Dude this isn't politics? It's a medieval sci-fi zombie HBO show? What's your problem?
08-27-2017 , 11:30 PM
Yeah, I guess I just have to go full fanboy to enjoy this **** show now

Based on perceived dragon flight times the white walker dragon should be in winterfell in like, 5 real-time minutes torching the freshly smug stark children
08-27-2017 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
I thought there was enough suspense in the Dragon Pit/KL and at Winterfell to make it a pretty good finale, but the Theon nut shot scene was pretty bad.
the dragon pit scene was really excellent. that and the gold train ambush were two of the moments that i was most on the edge of my seat throughout. the battle beyond the wall should have been as well, but the execution was so hammy.
08-27-2017 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoe
LF was never as big as many in this forum wanted him to be. They couldn't show much in advance to spoil it just like they didn't with any other hero's death we have seen. They have never shown the Lannisters or Freys plotting the deaths of any of the Starks in advance, why should they do the opposite? I think it's cool that they didn't.
LF is one of those classic scheming secondary characters that angry neckbeards love for all the wrong reasons in between pointing out the finer points of medieval hand-to-hand combat and ranking which fighters would objectively win in a head-to-head NCAA style bracket.
08-27-2017 , 11:37 PM
Good episode.

I am once again entertained
08-27-2017 , 11:53 PM
Theon nut shot scene was every action movie fight cliche, all rolled into one scene. So bad.
08-27-2017 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ham on rye
the dragon pit scene was really excellent. that and the gold train ambush were two of the moments that i was most on the edge of my seat throughout. the battle beyond the wall should have been as well, but the execution was so hammy.
Dragon pit scene had ~0 suspense/intrigue.

No one (important) is going to die.

No one is going to say or do anything surprising. Characters are all fully locked into their sides (good and bad).

What made this show interesting in the past was the ambiguity ("good" guys did bad things occasionally and vice versa). Now everyone is Cersei evil or Jon good.

Even the hound lost his balls this ep.
08-27-2017 , 11:58 PM
Cartoon network had a memorandum for the writing on game of thrones at the end of rick and morty, lmao

2011-2016

I enjoyed the episode though

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08-28-2017 , 12:01 AM
what is up with Tyrion creeping at the end? Like as a show decision I don't get it

Little Finger is pound for pound the worst actor. He gets awesome parts and dialog which he destroys with his glassy awed expressions and multiple accents. That storyline was hard to watch but the scene was actually well executed considering how badly those impossible to see coming but only explanation gotcha moments can fail
08-28-2017 , 12:02 AM
The idea that the show writers should have let us in on the Sansa-Arya plot is absurd. That's akin to saying they should have shown us Walder Frey giving his assassins orders before the Red Wedding.

You can't go on complaining last week about how the writing was bad because the Sansa-Arya tension made no sense and then say "That sucked, didn't see it coming."
08-28-2017 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoe
Great episode, 2+2er's just miserable and unable to enjoy life like usual.
I've been saying this for years

Great episode, highly enjoyed it as well.
08-28-2017 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoe
Should be no bookreaders or politarding.
+1. Get that crap out of here.
08-28-2017 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
The idea that the show writers should have let us in on the Sansa-Arya plot is absurd. That's akin to saying they should have shown us Walder Frey giving his assassins orders before the Red Wedding.

You can't go on complaining last week about how the writing was bad because the Sansa-Arya tension made no sense and then say "That sucked, didn't see it coming."
i think this feedback is generally fair, but when you look back at some of the other big twists / betrayals, there was a bit more foreshadowing. i wasn't like howling mad at the outcome, i just thought it could have used a little more exposition.
08-28-2017 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Heroball
Dragon pit scene had ~0 suspense/intrigue.

No one (important) is going to die.

No one is going to say or do anything surprising. Characters are all fully locked into their sides (good and bad).

What made this show interesting in the past was the ambiguity ("good" guys did bad things occasionally and vice versa). Now everyone is Cersei evil or Jon good.

Even the hound lost his balls this ep.
i mean if you think the only important event is somebody getting killed or switching sides, yeah, sure.

but there was plenty of dramatic tension in the scene. they did a great job conveying how far people had come (in terms of arc, not literal distance) and how weird and tangled some of the relationships were. and then when they bring the wight out, they did a really good job of conveying how ****ing crazy it was for the people who had never seen one (including some of the people on team dany who just weren't there for the battle). and then it seemed like cersei was really giving jon snow the classic Stark family choice, and he of course did his usual dumb Stark thing and blew it. (there were some plot holes after that, but within the scene itself there were lots of interesting moments.)

good drama doesn't literally just mean "someone could get killed at any time!"
08-28-2017 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ham on rye
i mean if you think the only important event is somebody getting killed or switching sides, yeah, sure.

but there was plenty of dramatic tension in the scene. they did a great job conveying how far people had come (in terms of arc, not literal distance) and how weird and tangled some of the relationships were. and then when they bring the wight out, they did a really good job of conveying how ****ing crazy it was for the people who had never seen one (including some of the people on team dany who just weren't there for the battle). and then it seemed like cersei was really giving jon snow the classic Stark family choice, and he of course did his usual dumb Stark thing and blew it. (there were some plot holes after that, but within the scene itself there were lots of interesting moments.)

good drama doesn't literally just mean "someone could get killed at any time!"
It wasn't any of these things.

Also did I miss a scene last season were Tyrion become a moron? Show spends six seasons making him a political genius and decides this season he is the single dumbest person in Westeros.
08-28-2017 , 12:25 AM
Of course not, and of course that wasn't what I said.

If you can see past the man of straw you've built, you might note that the POSSIBILITY that anyone could die at any time, was one of the facets that previously made this show interesting.

Of course that's the show that existed before Arya survived dozens of stab wounds, Jon literally resurrected, and Jamie swam two miles in full armor whilst sinking underwater.
08-28-2017 , 12:26 AM
How were the white walkers planning to get past the wall before they got a dragon?
08-28-2017 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
How were the white walkers planning to get past the wall before they got a dragon?
Teleport like all the other characters.
08-28-2017 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
It wasn't any of these things.

Also did I miss a scene last season were Tyrion become a moron? Show spends six seasons making him a political genius and decides this season he is the single dumbest person in Westeros.
Right.

It was pure boring fan service. Hey, look, it's that guy that used to know that other guy and now they're referencing their shared past!

Tywin died for....this.


No, no, Tyrion's not dumb: he exists as a check on Dany's baser impulses!
08-28-2017 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
It wasn't any of these things.

Also did I miss a scene last season were Tyrion become a moron? Show spends six seasons making him a political genius and decides this season he is the single dumbest person in Westeros.
what percentage of your posts would you say involve just asserting a foolish opinion as if it were a self-evident fact? i would take a quick sample, but unfortunately it would involve reading them.
08-28-2017 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
How were the white walkers planning to get past the wall before they got a dragon?
Ask Bran.
08-28-2017 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrtrebus
Anybody else notice Bran warg into Tyrions glass of wine?
How about when he warged into that snow flake on Jamie's glove? When he looked down at it you could tell he knew something wasn't right.
08-28-2017 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Heroball
Of course not, and of course that wasn't what I said.

If you can see past the man of straw you've built, you might note that the POSSIBILITY that anyone could die at any time, was one of the facets that previously made this show interesting.

Of course that's the show that existed before Arya survived dozens of stab wounds, Jon literally resurrected, and Jamie swam two miles in full armor whilst sinking underwater.
then honestly just stop watching and stop posting. did you really think there was NO chance that anybody dies there? half the internet was sure we were in for cleganebowl.
08-28-2017 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ham on rye
what percentage of your posts would you say involve just asserting a foolish opinion as if it were a self-evident fact? i would take a quick sample, but unfortunately it would involve reading them.
Tyrion's absurd plan to TRUST HIS SISTER led to the WW getting a dragon.

He also got owned in his only other significant military decision this season.

I got Tyrion as suddenly extremely dumb as self-evident.

      
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