It can't be overstated how bad the writing was this season.

Sadly it's a lock to be as bad next as I understand the scripts are all written.

I thought the finale was a big step up from the last couple of episodes. I liked the Cersei/Jaime dynamics, and I liked Bronn/Pod and some of that. OTOH Gregor's speech to his brother felt out of place.

Jon/Theon was also pretty good.

Beric and Tormund are definitely alive. What's the point of keeping them alive after last episode only to have them die in this short scene where their absence wouldn't have made a difference? The excuse will be that they ran far enough away that they got to the part of the wall that was still standing.

i mean if he thinks he has control of sansa and is about to have the vail + the north, and is just taken completely aback by her flipping on him, then it makes sense. which i think is what they intended to convey, but they didn't really do enough to set it up.

also no matter how smart LF is, i think the whole zombie apocalypse development limits his options. that's part of the moral with him ... if all you are is a schemer who burns everyone eventually, and you stand for nothing, when **** hits the fan people might not follow you. even if he retreats to the vail it's just him and prepubescent julian casablancas waiting and hoping the WW and everyone else wipe each other out and then emerging like a bunch of draft dodgers. (actually not the worst plan, come to think of it.)

i thought that was exactly what they showed on screen. i assume in ep 1 of s8 we get tormund and beric rolling up to winterfell like "you guys this **** is bad!!" and then theon landing on pike and being like "wtf where's euron... send jon a raven!" ... which is presumably why we had to sit through his utterly predictable dickless WWE redemption tour during a season where like 5 other plot lines could have used more screen time.

This episode was fine. People are just conditioned to think the show sucks now as the last couple of episodes were weak.

LF's weakness is Sansa, it's been clear for ages now. It makes sense that she's his blindspot, he loves her.

That was epically disappointing.

Where the **** is Jamie riding to? Winterfell?

Beric/Tormund are clearly alive.

So many reaction shots in the meeting that led to nothing!

Also, thank god Sam finally showed up so Bran could tell him about Jon's parents.

Nope it was really awful writing.

Probably just fell from the wall into a river with full armor on and made it out just fine.

Great episode, 2+2er's just miserable and unable to enjoy life like usual.

Legit lol.

Michael Bay fan itt.

Well, this has made me reconsider. If anyone knows how to write awfully, it's you.

If you were from the north you would know that falling in a snow pile doesn't hurt.

Sad! That some of you are pissy about this season.

They obviously are extending the episodes, that's why there was only 7, so they don't have to pay the multi-millions to each actor/actress each episode.

Do you all not remember how drawn out the previous seasons were?

We're complaining about the writing? Come on, now.

We got to see and SAY HIS NAME and the

I am disappoint.


Cersei going back on her word....who could have foreseen it!! Why is every character who isn't Cersei so stupid now? What is Varys's function again.

Like she said she was sending her armies North...when they, ummm, don't go North, isn't that tipping her hand?

Like wtf is this?

Theon scene was Dorne sub plot bad.

I guess the guy overexerted himself or something whilst kicking Theon's non existent balls thus giving Theon the upper hand.....w.t.f!

Is that why they had the shortest episode of the entire series this season?

Trumpkin gonna trumpkin.

The spectacle **** was never what made the show good. It's the STAKES of the spectacle, when it finally happened, that made it good. They didn't do enough to build up the stakes such that when we saw the thrilling ****, it felt like it mattered.

Too much nuance for a trumpkin like awval.

Should be no bookreaders or politarding.

This is the first complaint leveled itt that I agree with. So much littlefinger screen time in seasons 1-5 for kind of a lame pay off but I get it there's a lot of threads to tie up in the next six episodes

I thought there was enough suspense in the Dragon Pit/KL and at Winterfell to make it a pretty good finale, but the Theon nut shot scene was pretty bad.

LF was never as big as many in this forum wanted him to be. They couldn't show much in advance to spoil it just like they didn't with any other hero's death we have seen. They have never shown the Lannisters or Freys plotting the deaths of any of the Starks in advance, why should they do the opposite? I think it's cool that they didn't.