HoR:
Loooool, first guy I was like whoa was that it so quick for gendry? Oh, nope. Wait what about this guy? Let's see who's unaccounted for. Oh hmmm nobody. Ok finally, the important character sacrificed is tormund. Lol, or not. Whoa jon snow.... psyche!!!!!

Iron:
yep.

Skiier:
yep.


But still pretty badass. And the series finale directed by Michael bay is gonna be some really next level ****!

I like that the writers went to the "fall in the nearest body of water, sink to the bottom and crawl out 5 minutes later when your enemies have all left" well two episodes in a row

Gendry wasn't carrying his hammer on the way back so he was able to sprint it.

I never realized that, the show never seemed to give that impression. You would think they still would have sent a raven to winterfell if nothing else, they made it clear no one in winterfell even knew of his current expedition.

The behind the episode thing at the end was so ridiculous. Paraphrasing the writers: "once we sent these guys beyond the wall, we figured, they have to run into the WW army eventually. But we didn't know how to make it believable that they didn't lose the battle. And then we thought - what if we had then run over thin ice but he wights all fell through because there are more of them!"

Get these clowns out of here and just wait for GRRM to finish writing the last season. And if he dies and never finishes it then just leave it unfinished

Oh my god ginger Tournmond just gave himself a two liner exit double tap

Logic does not exist when english majors are in charge of things.

I still enjoyed the episode.

The white walkers getting a dragon was nice but I have been hoping for the entire show that Jon SNOW was gonna become the white king.

While he was able to obtain a dragon (so in a binary way it's hard to call this a bad turn of events for them), he had basically 75% of the world's VIPs within an ice spear shot.

He's just gotta hit that if he's trying to compete in the big leagues.

Right now I'm thinking the best move for whitewalkers is to freeze the seas and go after the Iron born. They would be a clutch pickup before the upcoming war.

Also, why do the whitewalkers travel with the dead that they turned. It's a pretty obvious optimization to eliminate the chance your entire militia gets iced in small battles when you die.

Even though they got a dragon I'm not liking their side.

The episode was very entertaining, but jeez, this is by far the closest the show has ever gone to straining suspension of disbelief to the breaking point.

The entire adventure north of the wall was from start to finish ludicrous.

The Arya/Sansa drama also feels completely over the top and forced.

I can't even watch these anymore. I just stare at those two idiots thinking about their awful "creative process" and turn off the TV. Dumb and dumber have truly ruined the legacy of what could have been the greatest show of all time. I even half suspect they cut the last two seasons short because they know they're in over their heads and suck at writing dialogue. Should have waited for the fat man to finish his books and then done the show properly.

Would have been funny if the dragon eye opened and was just a normal dragon eye then he ate the night king.

Bran was wogging thru john snow's sword via the wolf handle . How is that possible?

Watch when Jon pulls himself out of the water. There is a shot of the sword.

Jaime's was a river so it at least made a little sense.

Jon sank like a stone in a frigid lake. Do you know how quickly your muscles and body shut down in water that cold?

Don't even try to analyze this episode in terms of believably, your head will explode.

That was part of the gamble when they decided to make the show, they'd never be able to go on hiatus and wait for source material. I think they hoped they'd at least have book 6 in time but well can't win them all

This isn't a story that you can fan fiction, even a guided outline isn't going to be an easy time.

I feel like they could have accomplished every single one of the main plot points they wanted to in a much less cheesy way.

It's not so much WHAT happened that's ridiculous, but how it happened.

This final TV stretch is going to be written so poorly that there will be popular college writing courses where students are tasked with unwinding their own merrenneese knot and providing a synopsis for how they would have ended Game of Thrones

Are these unfortunate weapons, eg long claw and the hammer the result of some HBO merchandising or a bad props master? They look unreal bad.

Wish Barric went flaming with all the swords when fighting in high ground. Would be sick overhead panorama!

Wow I didn't notice that on my first watch.

Agreed. It's very entertaining, esp with the little added cannon and lore I know but I'm curious what the rewatch will feel like lol

re jons sword, thats just an optical illusion. the sword usually has eyes. just a lighting/reflection thing where jon's hand reflects off the marble thingy.

I figured the sword's eyes opening was more Azor Ahai magic like the wolf outline from Jon's blood in the snow when he was stabbed.

Definitely a bright spot in the episode.

No, they were clearly worg/wog grey then opened.

I mean, just a very simple thing that would have drastically improved things, not having Jon get left behind.

What wast he point of that? What did it accomplish plot wise? Nothing. The story is in exactly the same place as the scenario of him flying back with them initially.

That whole sequence, which added nothing to the plot at all, existed solely to give the audience a cheap ~60 seconds of false drama, at the expensive on needing a dozen completely ridiculous things to happen to sort itself out.

^^
Yeah Jon sinking into the icy water then immediately reemergence seemed like a between episode cliffhanger editing slip. The hole plot is a hole, wtf hypothermia and time travel

Can you guys explain this? I didn't see



If all this is the long con to where Arya gets carcetti it's a super weak arc



Below, thanks. ffs is this a Sansa pie wedding necklace investigation lol. Jon is not surviving so it makes some sense hell destroy evil with a twist

I didn't notice in until it was mentioned in this thread. If you watch Jon's sword's handle right before/as he's climbing out the lake, it appears the eyes are all white and then they sort of turn back normal.

I'm not 100% sold on it being a warg thing, the optical illusion thing is a possibility, however it's a strong enough visual that it certainly could be purposeful too.

If it's purposeful it's subtle enough that most people are going to miss it.