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08-14-2017 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
Some basic GoT stuff from ~ season 1 (with some recent reveals) that I'm sure is all accurate:

1. Jon was considered Ned's bastard via some southern maid during Robert's war; in actuality, he's the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, Ned's sister. His identity was kept secret because Robert would have had anyone with Targaryen blood summarily killed. Ned obviously didn't want his sister's child to die and he expressed similar sentiment about Dany.

2. Gendry is Robert's true son via his many extramarital affairs.

3. Robert and Cersei had no children; they were all Jaimie's (remember the line Ned discovered, that all of the Baratheon men had black hair?)
and Rhaegar was married to Elia, Oberyn's sister.
08-14-2017 , 11:29 AM
Jaime drowning was just a dream sequence. Alternatively a wizard did it.
08-14-2017 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
3. Robert and Cersei had no children; they were all Jaimie's (remember the line Ned discovered, that all of the Baratheon men had black hair?)
Yeah, also there was this prophecy:



"Will the King and I have children?"
"No. The King will have 20 children and you will have 3."

Which must also mean that Cersei is not going to give birth to a new child, since she has already had 3.
08-14-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by willie24
That was the single worst episode in the entire series. Whoever wrote the thing about the post-GRRM writers only being capable of slutty fast food has been confirmed correct. RIP GO(a)T
Yes but to be fair it's been like this since season 5. Better to just not expect good writing anymore and try to enjoy the endgame cluster**** as best you can.

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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf
So do we think Gilly is taking that diary with her? Or are we supposed to rely on her Wildling photo memory to spill the news of Jons dad at some point
I expect Bran or Howland Reed would know this secret as well. I think Gilly's blurb was just a fan teaser.

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
the whole bring back a wight thing felt like Glen being thrown down a well to save the water

this show is better than that.. Oh well.
Hah! Gotta agree with this. Makes zero sense why they suddenly care what Cersei believes. The Lannisters can't have much defense left...

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Originally Posted by Heroball
Arya and/or Sansa are going to easily sniff out this LF plot.
If they do, it will only be because he wanted them to >_>

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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Sam can't be the heir to Horn Hill. Brothers of the Night's Watch renounce all family ties and all claims to lands and titles. House Tarly is presumably ended now.
The king or queen can relieve him of his watch though, as Stannis tried to do for Jon.

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Originally Posted by Sciolist
You probably can't sit on the throne if you're a bastard. That was a pretty common rule in medieval Europe anyway.
Another situation the king or queen can rectify, as Stannis tried to do for Jon. Though admittedly it wouldn't make much sense for a monarch to legitimize their main competition. But hey... Gendry's a good guy and Jon knows what it's like to be a bastard. It'll probably happen.
08-14-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
Yea Jaime and Bronn swim underwater like a mile in suits of armor WTF? Also how have all of Cersi's children had no physical or mental defects?
Have you met Joffrey? Dude is a psychopath.
08-14-2017 , 01:06 PM
I guess I don't find the whole going to kidnap an undead guy nearly as stupid as everyone else it seems.

Nobody important will ever believe without seeing so they're trying to supply proof.

Dany is temporarily ceasing hostilities because she actually cares about this possible undead army.

Cersei does not give a crap bout them at all but is pretending to because she veiws a temporary cease fire as advantageous to them since she sees her side as sure to lose any imminent attack and will try to use this time to stall and to gain a more advantages position.
08-14-2017 , 01:08 PM
Yeah Sam becoming head of Horn Hill seems like a given. Assuming the night King and his army are eventually defeated at that point the Night's Watch becomes pointless.
08-14-2017 , 01:09 PM
Cersi would be giving birth by the time some of these battles would be taken place soon. She is probably almost 2 months pregnant.

Edit-i dont know how jon and Co expext to find a Walker roaming around by itself where they can throw a hood over its head and run back home.
08-14-2017 , 01:12 PM
Do we know for sure if Jon is older than Dany or the other way around? It's gotta be very close either way, give the timeline of when Jon's birth took place right before Robert's rebellion.
08-14-2017 , 01:23 PM
Except for the part where the walkers are approaching the North quickly, but Jon and his crew are somehow gonna traverse most of Westeros, return to convince Cersei, and then go back to fight the walkers before they arrive in the North.

I guess the white walkers just walk really, really slowly.
08-14-2017 , 01:28 PM
Did anyone else not immediately realize Cersi was preggo. I though she was touching the god between her legs when she was told Jamie what they're fighting for. Then I burst out laughing at his shocked expression

Also anything mad queen related is a fun twist imo
08-14-2017 , 01:53 PM
Arya and Littlefinger both suck at surveillance.
08-14-2017 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WalterS
The point is that it is an incredibly poor choice. If they wanted Jaime to escape that battle alive, there were 1000 different ways to make it happen that would have been fine. Choosing to have him go in water 10 feet from Dany in full armor and somehow make it a mile downstream is just dumb and insulting to the viewer.
The way they handled it was dumb obv
But they fell into Blackwater rush -- which is supposed to have incredibly strong currents. So in theory they could have been pulled farther away from where they fell in...just not 300 yards away obv.
08-14-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
Cersi would be giving birth by the time some of these battles would be taken place soon. She is probably almost 2 months pregnant.

Edit-i dont know how jon and Co expext to find a Walker roaming around by itself where they can throw a hood over its head and run back home.
Think their plans revolves around getting one of the dead skelton wrights

Also I'd say Jon/Hound/Jorah are likely survivors with Gendry, Tormund and the two brotherhood guys eating it. Davos obv survives since he is staying in the castle.
08-14-2017 , 02:28 PM
No chance whatsoever that Tormund dies since he hasn't hooked up with Brienne yet. D&D the halfwits don't hint at something over several episodes with no payoff.

Honestly wouldn't make sense for Beric and Thoros to die either since they have that resurrection plotline. At least... not die permanently. But I do agree someone's gotta go so I guess it might be one of them.

Loved the part when Jon put Dany in her place. "Look honey I don't need your permission to leave k?"

Oh and honestly, in an episode packed with such unbelievable events as Jaime and Bronn swimming 20 miles underwater with full plate armor and Glen going down the well, to me the least believable occurrence was Cersei knowing about Tyrion visiting KL and not capturing him. Did I misinterpret that scene or something? Jaime said she knew, meaning before the meeting took place, no? Her character would NEVER in a million years let Tyrion escape if she had a chance to capture him. Pretty ridiculous oversight when the writers could have simply not included the bit about her knowing beforehand...
08-14-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
Yeah, also there was this prophecy:



"Will the King and I have children?"
"No. The King will have 20 children and you will have 3."

Which must also mean that Cersei is not going to give birth to a new child, since she has already had 3.
She also knows full well there ain't no 4th kid coming to her
08-14-2017 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
to me the least believable occurrence was Cersei knowing about Tyrion visiting KL and not capturing him. Did I misinterpret that scene or something? Jaime said she knew, meaning before the meeting took place, no? Her character would NEVER in a million years let Tyrion escape if she had a chance to capture him. Pretty ridiculous oversight when the writers could have simply not included the bit about her knowing beforehand...
regarding ^, another thing the show has been hinting at pretty heavily is that Dany has a traitor in her midst

the Lord of Light folks seem to think it's Varys, which would make some sense
(though i'm not certain what his real agenda would be then)
08-14-2017 , 02:47 PM
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Did I misinterpret that scene or something? Jaime said she knew, meaning before the meeting took place, no? Her character would NEVER in a million years let Tyrion escape if she had a chance to capture him. Pretty ridiculous oversight when the writers could have simply not included the bit about her knowing beforehand...
she did find out that Tyrion didn't murder her son

if Jamie can overlook patricide maybe cersei could too as capturing tyrion would mean no truce with the dragon queen
08-14-2017 , 02:52 PM
She only found that out during the conversation with Jaime. When she apparently "allowed" the meeting to take place she still thought Tyrion killed her father and son and wanted every living Lannister dead. I just can't see any scenario where her rage doesn't overwhelm her logic upon learning of his arrival, dragon queen be damned.
08-14-2017 , 02:56 PM
It's certainly possible she didn't know about the meeting and was lying. There was a long pause after Jamie mentioned it. She may have been calculating how such a meeting would have taken place and figured it would be via Bronn, so she tried to make herself look smart.
08-14-2017 , 02:59 PM
I was a bit surprised Jamie acted so angrily toward Tyrion. I didn't think any of them thought much of their father, and he was feigning anger when Bronn brought it up 2 seasons ago. Guess I was wrong.
08-14-2017 , 03:00 PM
Where was Greyjoy this whole time? Grounded in his room at Dragonstone?
08-14-2017 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by baudib1
So LF obtained the note specifically for Arya to find out? Arya can't be dumb enough to think this was all Sansa's words; Robb figured it out immediately.
In S1E2 Sansa lied (by omission) about the Joffrey/Butcher's boy fight, to keep favour with Joffrey and made a huge deal about wanting to be queen.

There is really no reason for Arya not to believe Sansa wrote that note as she had chosen to side with Joffrey and the Lannisters.
08-14-2017 , 03:10 PM
Tywin was very stern but his relationships with Jaime and Cersei were ones of mutual love and respect. They had typical family squabbles over Tywin wanting them to take on different roles than what they wanted, but they all still loved each other.

I think it would be pretty cool if they went the route of having 3 mad queens. The last episode could be Jorah taking out Dany, Jaime taking out Cersei, and Arya taking out Sansa for the good of the realm. Maybe even a montage with Varys and Melisandre's true form dry humping in the background.
08-14-2017 , 03:18 PM
is Varys a confirmed OLD like Melisandra? They've mentioned dragons being extinct for ~300 years, but Varys talks about watching the mad king burn people alive? or was that just him burning them, not dragons?

      
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