Hm, I thought he was just one of a long list of bastards that John Aryn was investigating.

But won't she take the name of some other House when she marries?

Obviously I agree that whoever has the power to take the throne can take it, but I think Jon was the exception to the normal rule because the requirement was that a Stark be the king in the north. Which is kind of ironic, as he isn't even a half Stark.

How about it happening to Jorah, after the happy reunion?

Yeah agree... the plan is dumb and the scene where they all discussed the plan was cringeworthy.

I hate that all they are giving Tyrion to do is second-guess Dany and come up with terrible plans.

There's no doubt that party of legends heading north of the wall is going to be in for some serious action.

Not everyone will survive, some will become white walkers.

"Used a hammer back then, GODS I WAS STRONG. "

Just so that it won't be SOOOO obvious when Jamie ends up rulerslaying again.

Yes.

Yes.

Ughhh yes and he's gonna marry f***ing Arya. TBH I've got Gendry / Arya as being the royal couple at the end of GoT, said as much two weeks ago when I started worrying that they'd do this predictable **** w/ Gendry returning.

Not sure how Dany is dealt with in the above scenario as I still can't really imagine her dying, but maybe something uber tragic occurs w/ her and her babies dying at the finish line which leaves everyone scratching their beards wondering who deserves the throne.

Everything w/ Dany and the Jon / Jorah love triangle is so ****ing cringeworthy. With Davos now being written with more sassy one liners & Dany's WOAT acting etc the whole thing is a mix of RomCom and hispanic soap operas.

Yeah, it's almost as bad as your posting.

I thought Jon Snow was Robert's bastard, not Ned's, from Ned's sister? Are you saying he is not a Stark at all?

It was the mad king's kingsguard protecting Ned's sister in the tower.

Yeah Brotherhood having 2 men + Hound seems silly. Probably budget reasons. I'm assuming there are hundreds of their men somewhere, Riverlands?

Jon Snow IS half Stark.

Oh yeh, you're right. I'm being dumb, forgot who his mother was. He's half Stark, but not the half he thinks he is.

afaict everyone in Westeros now has the power of teleportation and nothing takes a long time

U seem sad.

I feel that is the least preposterous part of their mission. Going north of the wall to fight White Walkers is crazy, so it's no surprise most of the Brotherhood wouldn't volunteer for it. Thus only the true believers would go. The one problem with this is why Thoros and Beric wouldn't show others the visions in the fire like they do with the Hound - but maybe there is something special about the Hound and fire due to his burned face.

How long were Jamie/Bronn underwater for? And how far did they swim? We know Dany/drogon didn't leave the battlefield as they rounded up the rest of the army and forced the knee bend.

How do they/anyone not go after or confirm the death of the highest ranking general/commander of your enemies army?

Instead 2 days later they assume he is alive and arrange a meeting with him, wtf. Makes no sense.

Some basic GoT stuff from ~ season 1 (with some recent reveals) that I'm sure is all accurate:

1. Jon was considered Ned's bastard via some southern maid during Robert's war; in actuality, he's the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, Ned's sister. His identity was kept secret because Robert would have had anyone with Targaryen blood summarily killed. Ned obviously didn't want his sister's child to die and he expressed similar sentiment about Dany.

2. Gendry is Robert's true son via his many extramarital affairs.

3. Robert and Cersei had no children; they were all Jaimie's (remember the line Ned discovered, that all of the Baratheon men had black hair?)

Somehow this was one of the more plausible things in this episode.

Agreed. The only way it makes sense for Jaime to escape is if everyone believes he died. Otherwise, they would scour the area looking for him and should be able to pretty easily find him given they have thousands of great horsemen. If that were the case though, Tyrion would have no way to know he was still alive and thus makes no sense for him to head to KLs to meet with him.

Yea Jaime and Bronn swim underwater like a mile in suits of armor WTF? Also how have all of Cersi's children had no physical or mental defects ?

its just a TV show, get past it

I assume Dany didn't recognize Jamie when he charged her? Like otherwise maybe just ride around a bit until he surfaces and gg. Even if she never saw him AFAIK he should be pretty recognizable gold hand and fancy gear and all that.

The point is that it is an incredibly poor choice. If they wanted Jaime to escape that battle alive, there were 1000 different ways to make it happen that would have been fine. Choosing to have him go in water 10 feet from Dany in full armor and somehow make it a mile downstream is just dumb and insulting to the viewer.

Remember Joffrey?

Anyway, inbreeding doesn't always immediately lead to defects.

This, the whole cliffhanger is dumb and lazy in the first place but that they just kinda dismiss it in 5 seconds is the inexcusable part. People for a week are like "wow how is Jamie gonna survive he has one hand and he's weighted down by his armor and there's a dragon on top of him and dothraki all around him" and turns out the answer is he just swims to the shore and walks away. Laaaaaaaaame.

Cersei did give birth to one of Robert's children but he died really young from a fever. Cersei talks about this in season 1.

EDIT: Just realized this doesn't jive with Maggy's prophecy. Show writers screwed up.