This season has been plenty exciting, but am I the one one who misses the more deliberate pacing of earlier seasons.

Part of what has made this show great are the conversations (Arya and Tywin, Tywin and Jaime, Jaime and Brianne, Littlefinger and Varys, Jon Snow and Ygritte, Tyrion and anyone, Oberyn and anyone, Olenna and anyone, etc.), many of which were not strictly necessary to advance the plot.

Those scenes are rare in a season with so much action, and so little acknowledgment of the passage of time.

I think most people think the quality of the writing and the show in general has declined quite substantially.

The spectacle makes up for it in a way, but GOT has moved more towards elite slutty fast food in the way in pays off the viewer.

Its all salt and fat done well now, it used to be much more nuanced.

Misogyny itt

Is your problem with the character or the actress? Bc even if your point about "throwing any Disney tween in Aryas spot and the scene wouldn't be affected" was true (it isn't but let's go with it) Arya, regardless of who was portraying her, would still be in and play a huge role in the scene. Removing her from the scene would have a huge negative impact on the scenes quality, importance, and tenseness and I think you know that which is why you keep shifting the goal posts.

Arya's plotline is very unique, but that's not the same as saying her character is great, or viewers would look forward to an Arya scene.

It also would help with her depth if she didn't mention her list with 60 seconds of meeting people.

Mmmmm...slutty fast food

This sums up my sentiments beautifully.

Both, but the character is worse.

She's a vengeful preteen with a list. Yawn. I'm watching the show again and I've only skipped over two sets of scenes...Theon getting tortured, and Arya stick fighting. I should have skipped over at least half of Arya and Hound's Epic Adventure as well but didn't due to laziness.

Her shtick is boring and played out, borderline cliche. Young girl sticks it to the baddies, we've all seen that before endless times and is just lazy and unnecessary.

Eh, just gonna agree to disagree

GoT doesn't really seem to have very many good or bad actors, because the show as it is doesn't really require much acting. it's just reading your lines in your 30-120 second scene and moving the thing along. there aren't many who stand out either way, even someone like Diana Rigg was just kind of there. fine, but not worth getting excited about. and people whine about Emelia Clarke a lot, but even she's fine. if you think she's worth complaining about, you need to watch more tv.

This is true for some of the ancillary characters (although I would not include Olenna/Diana Rigg in that category), but not for most of the main characters. I think that the success of characters like Tyrion, Cersei, and Tywin owes a lot to the actors. Even if physical stature weren't an issue, I can't imagine another actor doing a better job with Tyrion than Peter Dinklage.

This is top 5 WOAT takes ITT.

i disagree

but considering they needed a dwarf, he's probably much better than Warwick Davis

wtf do you expect, the character is like 10 or 11 years old in that scene at most, isn't she? You want her to quote the ****ing Art of War or something? The Bravos arc got a little tired with Arya but she's had a pretty interesting ride overall, I don’t know what more you want from a pre-teen fantasy character.

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I find it hard to believe that you have watched the entire show.

Joffrey kicked ass as a kid actor.

The acting skill chasm between Joffrey and Arya is expansive.

You're complaining that Arya is a one note character but praising Joffrey? I agree that Gleeson did a good job but 1) his character is older, 2) he's even more cartoonish and one-dimensional than you could possibly accuse Arya of being and 3) he probably got 2-3x the screen time she did in the time they were both on the show. Stop moving the goalposts, the point is your expectations of what a child actor playing a child character for 5 minutes of screen time per week should look like / accomplish are just silly. Arya has been in a lot of great scenes and arcs throughout the show, and the actress seems to do fine with the material she's given.

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Was praising the actor not the character, so yeah you're the one with goal post issues.

Wait, what? You think the kid who played Joffrey was a much better actor than the girl who plays arya? No. Arya is a pretty good actor and Joffrey was so one dimensional that I could have played him.

Re: Peter Dinklage - while I think he's solid, I don't put him in the top tier of GOT actors. He does overact a little at times imo

Arya is likeable and her character understandable but I wouldn't' say she's one of the better characters on the show.

The best characters off the top of my head (best in terms of backstory, depth, growth, all around being interesting)

Gold Medals:

Jaime
Tyrion

Silver:

Tywin
Lady O
Jon Snow
Theon
The Hound

Bronze:

Cersie
Dany* (the character is/could be good, Emilia Clarke certainly isn't)
Davos
Jorah
Sansa
LF
Varys

I think Jaime's acting is excellent. His character is both extreme and believable, and he carries it off. His line "there are no men like me" is one I missed for my list: it captures his wit, arrogance, and talent all at once. And his chained and covered in **** when he says it, as I remember.

In a thread filled with terrible takes, this one might be the worst. Well done.

LOL, no.

One dimensional ≠ easy to play.

i deride your truth-handling abilities

Already stated as much, but yes lol this x 100000000