Not all spinoffs suck. Better Call Saul is fantastic for example

Jorah Mormont: "The common people pray for rain, health and a summer that never ends. They don't care what games the high Lords play"

I think the criticism wasn't that the civilians would revolt, but that the episode completely threw succession order out of the window.

There's been talk itt about how you can grab the throne if you have the superior army and the support of the people. Which is kind of true, but in order to have the support of the people it's really important to have a blood right to the throne.

This is why all Targaryans are killed off by Robert during Robert's Rebellion and Dany and Viserys are shipped off to Essos. It's why the War of the Seven Kings starts. It's why Robert's bastards are killed and why the secret about Cersei's children is so important.

I think a fair bit of Jacobs criticism is valid and some is pretty silly. I think in the video he's trying to find nit-picks for comic effect. Taking the completely contrarian view that this finale was the worst episode in the show's history will generate the most views, as shown itt. I had never heard of the guy before.

i think i read somewhere they were considering a robert's rebellion miniseries/season. should have done it this year to let the books catch up imo. lots of good source material that wouldnt be trsh. the rogue prince etc would be great television.

he makes his point pretty clear, the reason robert was accepted as a king was because he was part targ on his mothers side. this is also why joffrey/tommen/myrcella had to hide the fact that they were born of incest. robert's bastards would have a better claim to the throne than cersei, or joffrey etc. just because you killed everyone and your son died doesnt mean you get to be queen, not to mention the fact that the 7 kingdoms have historically been misogynistic/never had an outright queen.

no matter how big the lannister army is (i dont think its that big these days tbh) it wouldnt be big enough to stop an outright rebellion from the smallfolk, look at what the sparrows did. also, fairly sure blowing up the great sept and killing a bunch of religious people, that were a reaction to (not explained in the show) alot of fkd up ish also wouldn't sit well. cersei also probably wouldn't have support from the westerlands even since she just killed uncle kevan. and the tyrell's are abviously gonna be mad. basically all cersei has is frankenmountain and qyburn and she just said "hey look, im queen now"

jon being king in the north makes almost as little sense, maybe less tbh. the sand snakes running dorne is just absurd. but whatev, minor details.

This would be good. But only if they don't use the actor who plays the young Ned in the flashbacks.

Hes ****ing terrible. Young Ned should be a bad ass not some mbop Hansen long haired emo.

Regarding cersei being queen. It's equally obvious that a) she just took it because she could and b) shes going to have a lot of problems with legitimacy next series. It's a feature, not a bug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0jSP1Pwrtc

Is there any evidence that the smallfolk really care about that stuff? They likely lead pretty miserable lives and their priority is to survive. When they revolted against Joffrey, it was for food, not some high principle. Having royal blood matters to other nobles, but if your a commoner, I'd expect you to give no care at all to who is the rightful king.

Cersei also just showed them that she was willing to murder thousands of innocent people to get what she wanted. I really doubt the smallfolk are going to rise up and provoke her at this point. I'm sure the people outside of KL are basically ignoring her and the people in KL despise her but what are they really going to do - revolt and then have her massacre them as well (she still has the Goldcloaks on her side, although I wouldn't be surprised if there are a good number of desertions).

The normal people who live in King's Landing are being fed by Highgarden. Cersei has burnt that bridge, so we'll be back to food riots soon enough.

Assuming we didn't know Dany or the Night King were coming, how would Cersei control the 7 kingdoms over the course of the next 10 years?

Incredibly well done, thanks for sharing.

For those too lazy to click the link:

At this point in time controlling KL does not mean controlling the 7 kingdoms. In fact it's just another city now and controlling it is pretty meaningless.

that peakedddd, really well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xaspBsfgRg

also great imo.

When the Targaryens came to Westeros hundreds of years earlier, they became kings because they had dragons and fried the **** out of anyone who thought otherwise. Power = king. If Ned Stark wanted to be king after Robert's Rebellion, he probably would have had enough people backing him up to do so as well.

It seemed pretty obvious that basically everyone knew Joffrey wasn't Robert's real son. The only people who cared were Stannis and Renly, and they were defeated. Hence Joffrey stayed king for the rest of his life.

the targaryens also bound themselves with the faith, and united the 7 kingdoms (save for dorne, so 6 i guess) so the smallfolk would see them as legitimate. and the only reason anyone knew about joffrey was because stannis sent ravens to all the houses telling everyone after jon arryn did all that research etc.

there was a time when the people revolted against a targaryen ruler and even stormed the dragonpit and killed several dragons, because the targs were getting out of hand.

When did Stannis do this?

Some of that romdom post seems like it comes from book-knowledge or other source material to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iimpkprnTk

a harmless courtesy

a lie, take it out.

rip stannis the 1 true king.

and here's where eddard told stannis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1II1M77-C2E

bit of both but ya

haha, well put

Dude her face is not attractive at all. Her eyes are on the sides of her face and it's not proportioned the way (what normal men) consider a pretty face.

pedo's in this thread imo

I dont see how this is true. Jon is king in the north because the other houses in the north named him king in the north. Its not like he tried to claim the title through birthright.