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06-19-2016 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
The director said he didn't mean it to look like a rape, and that he didn't rape her. Hard to argue that wasn't a butchered scene in that case.
lol ya, i wonder what that directors sex life was like in college....
06-19-2016 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
I actually really want to see a tormund and brienne sex scene
i think its possible, they both have a lot of bear stuff going on. tormund says his mom was a she bear (mormont?) and that hes had sex with bears. and brienne was almost killed by that bear before jaime risked his own life to save her. the bear and the maiden fair.
06-19-2016 , 02:59 PM
i liked that scene, i thought it was a good rape
06-19-2016 , 04:01 PM
to be fair its a really complicated relationship, the whole "it didnt start consensual" isnt too farfetched for them, he knows her better than to just take her for what she says.
06-19-2016 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
to be fair its a really complicated relationship, the whole "it didnt start consensual" isnt too farfetched for them, he knows her better than to just take her for what she says.
while i realize this is a fantasy television show, try using that line in real life after a man is accused of raping his girlfriend or wife or date and see how that works out.

Last edited by romdom; 06-19-2016 at 04:09 PM. Reason: did u see what she was wearing? she was also drinking, she obv had it comin
06-19-2016 , 04:09 PM
Can we get a Cersei Burn Them All moment with Jaime saving the day?
06-19-2016 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by romdom
while i realize this is a fantasy television show, try using that line in real life after a man is accused of raping his girlfriend or wife or date and see how that works out.
yeah exactly someone IRL would lose their **** if you mentionned that its not really a rape because of who they are and their interactions and that he knew she actually wanted it

you'd probably get castrated just for mentionning that it's possible.

the directors kind of got castrated for saying "it didnt start consensual but..."
06-19-2016 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Can we get a Cersei Burn Them All moment with Jaime saving the day?
yes t bone, yes we can

mad queen on her way almost certainly. but i think jaime will kill cersei for killing tommen and all of KL.

she's probably talked about "burning cities to the ground' a half a dozen times foreshadowing this, and it would be a great way to completely redeem jaime as a knight/person.
06-19-2016 , 04:27 PM
It's very clearly rape to us: in reality, in Western civilization, in 2016.

You can't project our current societal norms and values back into the past (or even worse into fictional fantasy land tv shows).
06-19-2016 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
It's very clearly rape to us: in reality, in Western civilization, in 2016.

You can't project our current societal norms and values back into the past (or even worse into fictional fantasy land tv shows).
right, rape was commonplace and a part of life in the middle ages from which the world of GoT is based upon. but that doesn't make it any less odious, and clearly the scene is viewed through a modern day lens, since we're watching it in 2016 western culture.

maybe if you showed the scene to some Visigoths or something they would be ok with it, but that isnt who consumes the show, the show is consumed by modern day western civilization.
06-19-2016 , 05:01 PM
Romdom will be witnessing another rape tonight in Game 7's Game of Thrones
06-19-2016 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Romdom will be witnessing another rape tonight in Game 7's Game of Thrones
someone gon get raped
06-19-2016 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by romdom
i think its possible, they both have a lot of bear stuff going on. tormund says his mom was a she bear (mormont?) and that hes had sex with bears. and brienne was almost killed by that bear before jaime risked his own life to save her. the bear and the maiden fair.
haha i love it

that jaime-cersei scene was def rapey as ****, super cringe that somebody directed that and didn't intend it to be a rape when jaime is literally holding her down while penetrating her, responding to her "stop! stop it!" with "I DONT CARE. I DONT CARE!"

for sure that had to be our first taste of what to expect from the writers when GRRM becomes less involved, and here we are now with the absolute ****tiness of last week's episode and arya's post-hound escapades. standard.
06-19-2016 , 06:54 PM
it could have been part of their sexual ritual after having lots of sex together over many many years. Like my wife likes me to pretend that I'm Podrick...

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06-19-2016 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist
it could have been part of their sexual ritual after having lots of sex together over many many years. Like my wife likes me to pretend that I'm Podrick...

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thinly veiled brag itt
06-19-2016 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by romdom
I would argue that Jaime is a good guy, just shackled by his duty to his house and love for cersei. For example, in season 1 when he didn't kill Ned because one of his men stabbed him in the leg from behind("it wouldn't have been clean"). Contrasted with young Ned killing the sword of the morning after being stabbed in the back.

He swore to catelyn he would never take up arms against Tully or stark, and he held true to that, albeit with some over the top threats (pun intended, booooom). He saved Tyrion from death, He had that touching moment with myrcella before she died, he loves brienne and admires her deeply for her honor.

The only real times I can think of where his dark side shone through were when he pushed bran ( for duty to his house and love for cersei) and that time he raped cersei on his sons corpse (out of desire and terrible directing). I guess you could see some darkness in his conversation with edmure, but that was a means to an end. He has made a metamorphosis from the kingslayer to golden hand, he respects knightly oaths, named his valyrian sword oathkeeper and gave it to brienne.

More than anything they've castrated him and made him look like cerseis cuckold bitch, with the way she treats him, and him being too in love to see what an awful person she is.

He has committed many more noble and good acts, than he has dark or evil acts since he began his personal restoration with brienne. If he were ever able to shower cersei and remove that shackle I think his characters redemption would be complete.
I think that initially, they were trying to show Jamie as spoiled and self-centered. The best example is the way he talks down to Jon Snow in Episode 1 (or maybe 2). The other example is when he kills his cousin in order to escape. It's perhaps a smart move in that Jamie's much more valuable to the Lannister cause than his cousin, but I think it's meant to show that Jamie doesn't even really value the lives of his kin (other than Cersei, Tyrion, and his kids).

I think the intent of the writers to show how he went from a good kid, to a self-centered man (with the start of this when he did the right thing and killed the Mad King to save lives, but yet instead was branded as the Kings Slayer), and then achieved redemption after losing his hand.
06-19-2016 , 10:00 PM
GOAT.

GOAT.
06-19-2016 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lumberajack
can't wait for Jon and Ghost to take back Winterfell
show delivers
06-19-2016 , 10:04 PM
All of these seasons/shows leading up to this, the greatest single episode that I've ever seen in my life. Thank you, GoT.
06-19-2016 , 10:04 PM
see ya, ramsay
06-19-2016 , 10:05 PM
Jon Snow certainly ran hot in the "missing a dozen waves of arrows raining from the sky" department
06-19-2016 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
Jon Snow certainly ran hot in the "missing a dozen waves of arrows raining from the sky" department
So did hundreds of others.
06-19-2016 , 10:06 PM
Excellent episode. Although Arryn part was quite predictable, an episode which fights Rains of Castamere and Hardhome and actually probably beats them.

Season 6 is best season so far. Confirmed.

But only one episode left
06-19-2016 , 10:07 PM
that was a pretty incredible episode, that battle rivals anything in movies
06-19-2016 , 10:10 PM
Dayuummmmmmmmmmmmmm. That was boss

      
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