I wonder if Jon might take the line of "I'm remaining Lord Commander but I need to leave the Wall and conquer the North and garner support for the watch before the White Walkers attack and winter comes".

Its really up to Jon, who is gonna argue with him. He has the wildlings with him so he can do what he likes now. He was betrayed by his brothers so he can leave them.

If he leaves no one can complain he's broken his vows because his watch technically ended.

I'm betting he remains Lord Commander but goes off to take the North and turn the heads of all the great houses of Westeros to the impending doom.

Does it say anywhere that a Lord Commander cant go off on such a mission? I think its up to him. They cant defeat anything with 30-40 men.

a Lord Commander certainly can't claim the Iron Throne tho

Doubt very much that that's what he s after anyway

There basically is no nights watch anymore.

Who is going to enforce any rules? If those that are left decide to change the rules nobody cares and can't do anything about it anyway.

I don't think that would be right. Dany would be the only remaining daughter of Aerys, the last Targ king. As Rhaegar died before Aerys, I don't think his kid would have had superior claim to Dany (at least that is how it works for British kings, I guess it could be different in Westeros).

Also, Jon would be a bastard as he Rhaegar was not married to Lyanna - it doesn't matter that she was highborn. Thus, even if his claim could be superior, I think it would still be Dany as the true heir.

The only reason the Baratheons toon over is because of some vague relation to the Targ bloodline (and no more Targ bloodline remaining((chased to be killed)).

So yea, a Targ blood would be the primary contender, as long as he got enough swords to back him.

Tell that to the guy who decided to legitimize his bastards and start a ****ing civil war.

What if I told you Lyanna and Rhaegar (nice spelling, thanks m8) were married?

What do we know about Rhaegar? The only thing we learn from anyone who actually knew Rhaegar was when Selmy tells Dany that he was a good guy. Now, do you think Selmy would have high opinions of someone who kidnapped and raped a highborn lady? Also, why do we even see this scene talking about a guy that seemingly has no relevance to the show?

There's also the tidbit from Littlefinger about Rhaegar courting? Lyanna at a jousting tournament. Actually, I'm pretty sure this happened or I could have just made this up in my head.

What do we know about Robert? He is a drunk, womanizing warlord. He admits, although 19? years later that he was a ****ty husband and a bad ruler. I can only guess many of these negative traits existed when he was young.

So, your Lyanna. You potentially have a secret romance with a charming Prince. You can either run away with the Prince and elope, or stay and get married off like a pawn.

In this fantasy Jon is a legitimate son. Half Stark and Half Targ.

I saw an article on fb that tried to figure out who would is the current heir to the throne if Tommen should die. It was complicated but they traced it way back and I guess it's Cersei.

I agree with most of your theory, and think that it seems more likely than not that Lyanna ran off with Rhaegar rather than being abducted.

The big problem with Jon being a legitimate son is that Rheagar was already married to Elia Martell. Thus even if his relationship with Lyanna was consensual, I don't think he could have married her. I guess its possible he could some sort of quickie divorce and then remarried, but I would think there would be some record of it happening.

hmmm ok

In the backstory im gonna suppose we will get soon enough, I would think there's more then they ran away w each other. Its just too simple for what has been hinted at forever in this story.

Isn't Kevan still alive? It's gotta be him.

It should be summer random baratheon cousin.

Oh, duh. I forgot. Yeah, there's definitely some distant Baratheon out there.

I kind of think the Faith Militant are going to run all of KL by the end of the season, with maybe all of Tommen, Cersei, Jamie being put to death.

Nah, theres got to be some mass slaughter awaiting the priests. I mean its what, 10k dudes w clubs?

What if the first wife died and they didn't think he was ever able to create offspring with Ned's sister?

Yea I feel like Jamie is going to raise a military/militia and take control back.

That is the only play that would make any sense out of him.

It would be really unexpected if KL became a religious "middle class" place without kings and all the firepower came from multiple groups attacking KL simultaneously.

Pretty sure she's the woman the mountain "raped and killed". IE the whole Dorne storyline. Assumptions are that would have taken place when King's Landing fell during Robert's Rebellion. Not sure it's ever mentioned exactly when that happened but no other time makes sense.

Yall don't think Snow is Robs after the scene of him and Ned at her resting spot in season 1?

Jon? Isn't Jon older than Rob?

Pretty sure he means Robert Baratheon.

This hard to post from my phone, after season one with the cersie/Ned and Robert/Ned scenes I was thinking this, wondering if it's plausible

see kdubs post below.

I'm really confused as to how ur such an amazing show watcher that all the way back in season 2 ur guessing R+L=J just from watching the shows and yet in response to the above question by rafki this is ur response.
kdub answers it correctly and it's one of the more simple explanations so how on earth did u miss it so entirely esp when it was a vital plot point?

it's obv this and has absolutely nothing to do with establishing joffery's cruelty.

I dunno how u guys have allowed doggz to pretend he hasn't gotten info from outside sources.