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06-16-2014 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Royale
she sat there with a stone face, stole his gold and left with no words makes me think she was being a cold-hearted bitch, not a buddy.
"Taught me so well, I grabbed the gold,
And I left his dead ass there by the side of the road."

The Grateful Dead "Me and My Uncle"

06-16-2014 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tall Paul
The look Melisandre gave Jon Snow through the fire seemed important. King's blood?
Yeah that seemed important. Could be related to who's his mother (or father for that matter because it's probably not Ned).
06-16-2014 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil
Mountain is coming back as a frankensteinish monster. Bronns storyline got massively more interesting and he is very likely the biggest player in the endgame of GoT, Arya becoming a braaavos-trained waterdancing-assassin is gonna be awesome, I imagine her to be the female version of Assassins creed when she come of age.
Seems like I missed something, why is this?
06-16-2014 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ham on rye
lol whoever said arya going to bravos was handled "quickly." it's been obvious that would happen since she got the coin at what, end of s2? so it took 2 whole seasons.
I was referring to how quickly she transitioned from being with Hound to skipping over Brienne to saying the words and getting on a boat. Because Brienne was looking for her and I assumed she wouldn't be let go by the men at the Vale gate, I saw a lot of plotting obstacles before she would do the coin

I dearly hope Jaqen returns. Same actor. I doubt he will though. I don't know any examples of actors signing contracts where they have a small role then have to wait three years to return
06-16-2014 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Joffrey

I dearly hope Jaqen returns. Same actor. I doubt he will though. I don't know any examples of actors signing contracts where they have a small role then have to wait three years to return
It would make sense for him to return as a different actor, as he can shapeshift.
06-16-2014 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tall Paul
The look Melisandre gave Jon Snow through the fire seemed important. King's blood?
I picked up on that as well.

She seems to be able to identify special mojo in males. I'm sure her going after it will involve her being naked a lot... hurry up April.
06-16-2014 , 02:40 PM
Sadly I was spoiled on the Tyrion/Tywin deal, but holy **** did it deliver.

Loved Bran Stark's scene as well, and am definitely looking forward to his role going forward.

But I guess I need some explaining on why Ayra going to Bravos is going to be so awesome? I guess I don't pay enough attention to know what goes down in Bravos.
06-16-2014 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RacersEdge
this episode was weird - just seemed kind of forced.

It seemed out of character for Tyrion to kill Shae and his father. He's not a killer. Just get the f out of KL makes more sense for him.

I don't get the whole Mance's army collapse either. They were 100K strong with giants and fierce warriors, then they get turned away by a handful of soldiers in the NW, then they insta-surrender to Stannis?
As for Tyrion, he was railroaded into a death sentence by his father, his sister, and the woman he loves. I'd imagine that sort of changes a person, I mean his rant at his trial, dude is seriously pissed off at all the idiots and scumbags around him to the point of kinda snapping. Plus he didn't intend to kill anyone at first, Shae attacked him and killed her in defense. At that point he probably DGAF and blames his dad for everything, including Shae's death.

As for Mance, you have to remember his army is large but disorganized and poorly equipped. They knew they had a chance at taking the wall because the Knight's Watch had become a skeleton crew and they could win a war of attrition. Based on the shots I saw Stannis' force was hardly a handful, looked like many hundreds of well armed and trained mounted soldiers. This is the army he bought with Bravos money to retake the throne, so it's not just a couple of dudes. Yeah in reality the wildlings would have probably fought much longer before they realized it was hopeless but they just sped it up a little.
06-16-2014 , 03:04 PM
I just had a great idea. Cersei should send FrankenMountain on a one-man rampage quest to find Tyrion. That would be the closest the show gets to being Terminator, which means Tyrion is Sarah Connor and Varys is Kyle Reese. I guess that means they're gonna bang.


I was trying to figure out who should get made Hand of the King.

Olenna would be a cool pick, but I doubt it.

Mace would be awesome for opposite reasons, but again doubt it.

Loras never does anything so he's out.

I doubt it could be a Bolton or Frey.

I think my only serious pick is Jaime. I mean, who else would Cersei/Tommen even pick? Pycelle? He may be the master of stuttering and squats, but he's no Hand

Perhaps Ittlefinger. They don't know about Sansa or him killing the Joffsters and he has been close with them for a long while. That could be incredible, actually. Ittlefinger would be destroying them from the inside, Sansa hiding in the Vale or something.

Come to think of it, Ser Pounce is a lock. Tommen makes him Hand every time. Team Pounce IMO
06-16-2014 , 03:08 PM
Its not like the wildling army was prepared. They were sitting around camp. Any army without guns would be devastated by a cavalry charge through their unprepared camps - even if they were trained and disciplined men.

Now consider both flanks of unprepared, undisciplined men who were probably eating, drinking, ****ing, etc getting surprise charged on by calvary. The fighting would not have lasted long as the wildlings would have routed very very quickly.
06-16-2014 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
As for Tyrion, he was railroaded into a death sentence by his father, his sister, and the woman he loves. I'd imagine that sort of changes a person, I mean his rant at his trial, dude is seriously pissed off at all the idiots and scumbags around him to the point of kinda snapping. Plus he didn't intend to kill anyone at first, Shae attacked him and killed her in defense. At that point he probably DGAF and blames his dad for everything, including Shae's death.

As for Mance, you have to remember his army is large but disorganized and poorly equipped. They knew they had a chance at taking the wall because the Knight's Watch had become a skeleton crew and they could win a war of attrition. Based on the shots I saw Stannis' force was hardly a handful, looked like many hundreds of well armed and trained mounted soldiers. This is the army he bought with Bravos money to retake the throne, so it's not just a couple of dudes. Yeah in reality the wildlings would have probably fought much longer before they realized it was hopeless but they just sped it up a little.
What did he intend to do? Someone else mentioned this, why did he go to Tywin's room without a weapon? Surely he intended to kill Tywin?
06-16-2014 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
As for Tyrion, he was railroaded into a death sentence by his father, his sister, and the woman he loves. I'd imagine that sort of changes a person, I mean his rant at his trial, dude is seriously pissed off at all the idiots and scumbags around him to the point of kinda snapping. Plus he didn't intend to kill anyone at first, Shae attacked him and killed her in defense. At that point he probably DGAF and blames his dad for everything, including Shae's death.

As for Mance, you have to remember his army is large but disorganized and poorly equipped. They knew they had a chance at taking the wall because the Knight's Watch had become a skeleton crew and they could win a war of attrition. Based on the shots I saw Stannis' force was hardly a handful, looked like many hundreds of well armed and trained mounted soldiers. This is the army he bought with Bravos money to retake the throne, so it's not just a couple of dudes. Yeah in reality the wildlings would have probably fought much longer before they realized it was hopeless but they just sped it up a little.
I don't think the army was bought by Stannis. He said that he had about 4,000 men, and I don't think the army he used was larger than that (maybe a few thousand tops). Also, if you look at their armor, it's the same that we have always seen for his men (I would assume that sellswords would have their own armor already).

As mentioned, a few thousand armored knights will destroy an unprepared and undisciplined force. The wildlings were caught completely off guard and likely many were not even armed at the time. With knights coming at them from both sides, they were doomed. Also, I think the 100k includes everyone with Stannis, so that would be a decent number of non-fighters.

Agree on Tyrion. I don't think he really had a plan when he went to Tywin's room as he had no weapon. He likely just wanted to confront his father and understand why he sentenced him to death for a crime he didn't commit. It also seemed unclear to me whether after he got the crossbow that he was always going to kill Tywin. I think if Tywin had not been so arrogant, Tyrion might have let him live.
06-16-2014 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Joffrey
I just had a great idea. Cersei should send FrankenMountain on a one-man rampage quest to find Tyrion. That would be the closest the show gets to being Terminator, which means Tyrion is Sarah Connor and Varys is Kyle Reese. I guess that means they're gonna bang.


I was trying to figure out who should get made Hand of the King.

Olenna would be a cool pick, but I doubt it.

Mace would be awesome for opposite reasons, but again doubt it.

Loras never does anything so he's out.

I doubt it could be a Bolton or Frey.

I think my only serious pick is Jaime. I mean, who else would Cersei/Tommen even pick? Pycelle? He may be the master of stuttering and squats, but he's no Hand

Perhaps Ittlefinger. They don't know about Sansa or him killing the Joffsters and he has been close with them for a long while. That could be incredible, actually. Ittlefinger would be destroying them from the inside, Sansa hiding in the Vale or something.

Come to think of it, Ser Pounce is a lock. Tommen makes him Hand every time. Team Pounce IMO
Why not Cersei? Jaime is the other reasonable pick. No way they'd let anyone outside the family gain so much power, while Tommen is king and young the hand of the king seems like the effective ruler. Maybe even formally? I don't know how old Tommen is.
06-16-2014 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Joffrey
I just had a great idea. Cersei should send FrankenMountain on a one-man rampage quest to find Tyrion. That would be the closest the show gets to being Terminator, which means Tyrion is Sarah Connor and Varys is Kyle Reese. I guess that means they're gonna bang.


I was trying to figure out who should get made Hand of the King.

Olenna would be a cool pick, but I doubt it.

Mace would be awesome for opposite reasons, but again doubt it.

Loras never does anything so he's out.

I doubt it could be a Bolton or Frey.

I think my only serious pick is Jaime. I mean, who else would Cersei/Tommen even pick? Pycelle? He may be the master of stuttering and squats, but he's no Hand

Perhaps Ittlefinger. They don't know about Sansa or him killing the Joffsters and he has been close with them for a long while. That could be incredible, actually. Ittlefinger would be destroying them from the inside, Sansa hiding in the Vale or something.

Come to think of it, Ser Pounce is a lock. Tommen makes him Hand every time. Team Pounce IMO
If a woman can be Hand, Cersei is a lock.
06-16-2014 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
I picked up on that as well.

She seems to be able to identify special mojo in males. I'm sure her going after it will involve her being naked a lot... hurry up April.
Also, Melisandre always seems to have her visions while looking into fire, which just so happened to be in between her and Jon at the time.
06-16-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Joffrey
Come to think of it, Ser Pounce is a lock. Tommen makes him Hand every time. Team Pounce IMO
Paw of the King
06-16-2014 , 03:56 PM
I thought the CGI of the skeleton stabbing Jojen looked funny, like one of these:

06-16-2014 , 04:02 PM
I don't think Jaime can be hand as a member of the Kingsguard.

He's still in the Kingsguard isn't he?
06-16-2014 , 04:22 PM
I wouldn't assume that the tommen and marge wedding is off. Cersei is super skeptical of the Tyrells but they also still need their $ and assistance. Remember that the first thing Cersei has to deal with is the fact that the crown is ****ing broke as a joke and the iron bank is after them.
06-16-2014 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
I don't think the army was bought by Stannis. He said that he had about 4,000 men, and I don't think the army he used was larger than that (maybe a few thousand tops). Also, if you look at their armor, it's the same that we have always seen for his men (I would assume that sellswords would have their own armor already).

As mentioned, a few thousand armored knights will destroy an unprepared and undisciplined force. The wildlings were caught completely off guard and likely many were not even armed at the time. With knights coming at them from both sides, they were doomed. Also, I think the 100k includes everyone with Stannis, so that would be a decent number of non-fighters.

Agree on Tyrion. I don't think he really had a plan when he went to Tywin's room as he had no weapon. He likely just wanted to confront his father and understand why he sentenced him to death for a crime he didn't commit. It also seemed unclear to me whether after he got the crossbow that he was always going to kill Tywin. I think if Tywin had not been so arrogant, Tyrion might have let him live.
This would be the dumbest move ever. If that's it, I would've loved to see him get thrown straight back to jail again, which is what would've happened like ~99% of the time.

I think Tywin played it well until he said Shae was just a whore. It made Tyrion recollect the other whore incident and that's what pushed Tyrion to pull the trigger. What would've happened otherwise is not entirely clear, at least that's how I see. Either way it would be really dumb to confront Tywin without putting yourself in that kind of position of power.
06-16-2014 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieKelly
Sadly I was spoiled on the Tyrion/Tywin deal, but holy **** did it deliver.

Loved Bran Stark's scene as well, and am definitely looking forward to his role going forward.

But I guess I need some explaining on why Ayra going to Bravos is going to be so awesome? I guess I don't pay enough attention to know what goes down in Bravos.
As far as I can remember there have been 3 characters from Bravos.

1) Syrio Forel - Aryas 'dancing' instructor
2) Jacquen Hag'ar - Faceless Assassin
3) Iron Bank - More money (power) than Lanisters.

High hopes for Arya..
06-16-2014 , 06:11 PM
Why is Cersei so concerned with the Mountain living? It seems like he has served is purpose. Seems odd that she cares whether or not he will live.

I also think that Arya (the actress anyway) was brilliant in this episode. Her indifference towards death was really articulated in that scene with her watching the Hound. Just sitting there staring at him as he begged to die. The fact that she showed no real emotion is a huge leap for the character moving towards assassin status.
06-16-2014 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
Why is Cersei so concerned with the Mountain living? It seems like he has served is purpose. Seems odd that she cares whether or not he will live.
The Mountain, Gregor Clegane, is actually the head of a small House, House Clegane, which is loyal to the Lannisters. He's a valuable ally.
06-16-2014 , 07:12 PM
Season seemed so short to me. Really looking forward to Arya going to Bravos, superMountain (time for another casting change lol), and wherever Tyrion and Varys end up. Brans story has potential as does the Wall.

Loved the Hound/Briene fight. Pretty sure he's dead, but who knows with this show.
06-16-2014 , 07:47 PM
Yea the Hound/Briene fight was one of the most realistic yet exciting fights I've seen on TV and most certainly the show.

      
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