He was banging the love of Tyrion's life. Tyrion just murdered her. Game over.

Sure. It wasn't depicted like that though. The writing cut every corner possible here. I was making the point for a different reason than to complain about that though. If I were to complain about that, it would have more to do with how weak it was dramatically.

Sure, maybe there's some way for the writers to make it work, but if you're going to present a theory and justify how realistic it is by saying the writers can probably get away with it, meh.

WTF how could you possibly watch that scene and think it was a random girl. They swear her in in court and make her state her name, occupation etc and she gives a detailed account of her and Tyrion's life.

Yeah that was a bit peculiar. They just turned around to go where, exactly? I figured The Hound was dying as soon as Brienne saw Arya. Brienne is almost certainly the greatest fighter in the kingdoms. I have no idea what her plan with Sansa or Arya is either. Her storyline with Pod finally paid off and I'm lookin forward to more of this duo.

lol whoever said arya going to bravos was handled "quickly." it's been obvious that would happen since she got the coin at what, end of s2? so it took 2 whole seasons.

lol at dany leaving the dragons to die. yeah right

tywin + shae definitely not a long con. he bought her sometime during s4.

interesting to think about stannis integrating some of the wildlings into his army or deciding to let them south. like, would he really let a bunch of thenns come live in westeros? and if they do bring wildlings into the north, yeah there is plenty of room for them but i imagine there being some, uh, cultural differences. the idea of thenns and boltons sorting out a difference of opinion is amusing though.

i feel like the children are mentioned somewhere back in an earlier episode but i can't recall, and it might have been from one of the DVDs or something. if it's been done someone will post it.

lastly - there was honestly a part of me that was like, man i'm glad this season is almost over and i kind of hate this show. it feels like being in an abusive relationship with some beautiful spellbinding cryptofascist contortionist gymnast stripper. like i can't get away but also it is destroying my soul. however, this finale really felt different, a bit like a turning of the tide. this is the first time in a long time where i felt that some justice was being done on multiple levels. it's not all fairy tale style or anything but it's not sick twisted and senseless either.

I have no idea who the old fella under the tree is but I assume he's a very ancient being. Unlike most people (I assume) I look forward to more of this ancient world coming back to life such as with the children of the forest.

The most inexplicable issue with the finale is how Stannis managed to arrive with so many forces north of the wall. I guess he landed his fleet along the shore of the north..? I understand why Mance's army didn't have a navy, don't see any plothole here or anything. It was a bit odd though. At least Stannis did go north, as he was supposedly preparing to do at the end of s3. I guess we'll see Stannis' forces vs Bolton soon? Or is he marching further north?

I interpreted this completely opposite to you. She left him for a slow and painful death. Maybe I'm not reading between the lines, but the way she sat there with a stone face, stole his gold and left with no words makes me think she was being a cold-hearted bitch, not a buddy.

having stannis show up when he does is actually really important, because it lets mance and jon snow have a conversation where mance has 1) obviously outsmarted the crows and has a task force sent to finish off castle black - showing that his strategy was really good all along, and that the crows are ****ed, and 2) he gets to pitch the idea of peace to snow -even though he realizes snow came to kill him - while he still appears to have the upper hand. if he tells stannis he just wants shelter from the zombie apocalypse and he promises to be cool once stannis has already routed him, that's not so meaningful. mance really appears to be a decent and pragmatic leader in the encounter with snow, and a compassionate person. we don't get any of that if stannis rolls in mid-battle.

Haha, +1

Pretty sure that's just you, the dragons are the key to the throne for her. No way she'd kill them.

Though like someone else suggested it seems like Dany is losing control of her draagons and is not handling it very well.

Really looking forward to whatever happens with Tyrion and Varys in Essos, which is certainly where they're heading. Varys is from Pentos, right? I think (know?) Varys is on #teamdany and it'd be awesome if Tyrion and he hook up with that group. Plus it makes sense for Tyrion's ongoing story.

I'm interested what Varys got up his sleeve, but to figure that out I need to know his motivation or allies and I have no idea. Not sure why he'd want to go after LF.

I think Melisandre's plan is probably to remain at the wall. Stannis might want to march south though, will be interesting to see what happens.

I think in all of this the Tyrells have ben forgotten, I don't see Cersei with any real power for long.

Man I feel the exact opposite. Tyrion murdering his father in cold blood was such a great send up of and fitting resolution to Tywin's legacy. I'll miss the character, Charles Dance was amazing in the role. I was actively rooting out loud for Tyrion to send a bolt flying right into daddy's head. Not concerned about GoT ability to create new memorable characters. They've been doing it for years.

Totally agree with this.

Well, there is titsucker...

Tywin, boss ofc, wanted to get confirmation from tyrion himself of who let him go, all while talking him down from, you know, killing him, cause he is so boss.

No way Cersei allows it but Marg already has Tommen drooling, remember? I assume Tommen becomes a central character and this plot is a big one in season 5. His mother is absolutely going to dissuade him taking Marg's hand. She needs to provide a viable alternative, however.

I'm gonna guess there is a chance the Hound manages to survive.

Game of Thrones rules would say if you don't see someone important die on camera they aren't dead.

As such I feel he may reappear in some OMG moment down the road.

Maybe, ya never know.

She got offered A LOT of money by Varys to leave KL. It seemed strange that a whore would turn all that money down for love. And if it was for love, it seems strange that she ends up in Tywin's bed. Hell, it seems strange that Tywin would have her in his bed after the trial if they didn't have pre-existing relationship, Tywin could have any whore he wanted.

My best guess is she was working for Tywin for quite a while and that's why she didn't accept Varys' money, perhaps from the start.

Still have the Brotherhood Without Banners out there who could become major players. They were essential to the s3 plot, and unseen this season. Thoros of Myr was a great character as was Beric Donderrian. Hopefully we see them again. I miss 'em.

Judging by past seasons early April'ish.

On the s3 dvd extras there is quite a lot on the history of Westeros and Essos including the children of the forest. Also some info about the white walkers, the conquest and unification of the seven kingdoms by the Targs, and how the major families came to be. I believe these scenes are all available on youtube. Just search for dvd extras.

I share this interpretation. The only confusing part is why she didn't go with Brieanne given she has no love for the Hound. It's not as if she was immediately off to do her own thing. Her first instinct was to meet with Jon at the wall. It seems to me Brienne could've escorted her there but I suppose Arya has no reason to trust her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR5O9sd1N3U

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+1

Got a feeling the Hound makes it somehow. Probably a wanderer who helps him.