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06-16-2014 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Tyrion had two motivations to kill Shae.

1. Shae testified against Tyrion is his regicide trial.

2. Tyrion found Shae in Tywin's bed.
^^^ How did he know shae testified?, did they mention this prior cause i really missed that bit of information, even if it was mentioned & i didnt notice umm feel like they should've made a bigger deal out of it when he was told which i cant remember when that happened.


Also that whole children segment really made me cringe, i love GOT & all but the more things like this i see the more unrealistic it gets & iono feel too wierd iono, feel like i prefer to not have new elements of fantasy come in place but that's my personal preference.


Why did arya not kill the hound?, they made it seem almost like they got along during their journey for her to then just turn around & want to know that he suffered a slow painful death seems odd to me.


Not in love with the episode personally, was left puzzled by pretty much every scene tbh & felt like a child when the "children" plot came in & then bran told hes going to fly hahaha, im not into stuff like that ehh.


Looking forward to next season though.
06-16-2014 , 12:46 AM
Remember Tyrion's story about the time he fell in love, only to find out he had been tricked by Tywin? Tywin basically did the same thing with Shae -- she was a plant all along. Or that's how I see it.
06-16-2014 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Was it just me or does it seem like Dany was leaving the dragons to die?
lol.

just you.

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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Stannis is in an interesting place. He now has a large army and possibly an allied army (Mance's) but nobody has a clue he's taken control of the Wall. He's in a position to march South and wipe out the Boltons. I could see a Stannis-Littlefinger alliance to control the North-Vale-Riverlands so that they can march on King's Landing..
Jon advised Stannis to hear Mance out. Mance joining Stannis lets the wildlings south like they want, and gives Stannis the men he needs to take King's Landing. I don't think he necessarily needs to beat or be joined by Boltons/LittleFinger - though having at least 1 of them would certainly help in keeping the throne.

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Originally Posted by Exothermic
why did he kill shae, why did shae try and kill him?.

I am just like wtf at this whole episode.
well yea if you didnt watch the rest of the season, of course this episode wouldnt make sense. Tyrion's trial was one of the most memorable parts.
06-16-2014 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^^ How did he know shae testified?, did they mention this prior cause i really missed that bit of information...
Did you miss the episode in which Tyrion's trial took place? Shae was a prominent witness.
06-16-2014 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^^ How did he know shae testified?, did they mention this prior cause i really missed that bit of information, even if it was mentioned & i didnt notice umm feel like they should've made a bigger deal out of it when he was told which i cant remember when that happened.


Also that whole children segment really made me cringe, i love GOT & all but the more things like this i see the more unrealistic it gets & iono feel too wierd iono, feel like i prefer to not have new elements of fantasy come in place but that's my personal preference.


Why did arya not kill the hound?, they made it seem almost like they got along during their journey for her to then just turn around & want to know that he suffered a slow painful death seems odd to me.


Not in love with the episode personally, was left puzzled by pretty much every scene tbh & felt like a child when the "children" plot came in & then bran told hes going to fly hahaha, im not into stuff like that ehh.


Looking forward to next season though.
Dude, she testified right in front of him, it led to his great scene, did you miss one of the great GoT scenes?
06-16-2014 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Team Joffrey
You could make it work by adding a few variables like (1) Mountain is on a location that would take him too long to get to KL but not that long for Tyrion and the judges/legal team/fighters to get there. (2) Cersei could be super impatient and simply demand they ride out to the Mountain so he can kill Tyrion faster. She wouldn't have to be reasonable since she's supposedly the boss of the trial and is already thinking irrationally. (3) Maybe there's a rule that states the TbC must happen within a certain time period (like two sundowns or something), and they had to ride out to Mountain in order to get it done in time.

I think it could have been written in just fine. Obviously it would have been dumb if it was just willy-nilly "derp we're going to see the Cleganster".
1. Too long for what?
2. Even if Cersei was the formal boss of the trial (not sure if that was the case) Tywin would bitch slap her if she came up with an idea like that.
3. Tyrion expected to be able to pick Jaime from KL for his tbc at the Eyrie, pretty sure there's no such rule.
06-16-2014 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kdub72
Remember Tyrion's story about the time he fell in love, only to find out he had been tricked by Tywin? Tywin basically did the same thing with Shae -- she was a plant all along. Or that's how I see it.
I don't even wanna think about it. That's just -- ugh -- frustrating.

My original read from when I first came to the show during s2 was that Tyrion was on a "convince father that he's proud of me" arc. God was I wrong
06-16-2014 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^^ How did he know shae testified?, did they mention this prior cause i really missed that bit of information, even if it was mentioned & i didnt notice umm feel like they should've made a bigger deal out of it when he was told which i cant remember when that happened.


Also that whole children segment really made me cringe, i love GOT & all but the more things like this i see the more unrealistic it gets & iono feel too wierd iono, feel like i prefer to not have new elements of fantasy come in place but that's my personal preference.


Why did arya not kill the hound?, they made it seem almost like they got along during their journey for her to then just turn around & want to know that he suffered a slow painful death seems odd to me.


Not in love with the episode personally, was left puzzled by pretty much every scene tbh & felt like a child when the "children" plot came in & then bran told hes going to fly hahaha, im not into stuff like that ehh.


Looking forward to next season though.
sounds like you missed an episode.
06-16-2014 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Did you miss the episode in which Tyrion's trial took place? Shae was a prominent witness.
^^^ I guess i just didnt pay much attention to that particular scene, just googled it & aaw it & remembered watching it but in my head shae was alrdy gone & i strangly assumed it was some other random girl, was eating at the time as well sooo yea.

seems strange for her to get sent away somewhere "safe" only to come back to kings landing to tesitfy on tyrion no?.


Someone explain the arya-hound scene plz, arya and the hound turn away from the eyrie in a spot where if arya wanted the hound to die she could of just told the guards to kill him no?. Then she for some reason continues her journey with the hound & then the found fights to keep Arya safe or to keep her as a prisoner(makes no sense) & then she happily watches him suffer, steals his gold n enjoys the fact he dies a slow painful death.


p.s i really hate this whole mods need to approve comments b4 they are posted thing, why not just moderate the forum & delete spoilers when/if some ahole post them?.
06-16-2014 , 12:59 AM
does pycelle have tenure or something? why don't they just fire him if everyone hates him?
06-16-2014 , 01:01 AM
I'm sure the skeleton scene was just something from the books.

Besides, it's not really that out of place, north of the wall has always been consistently much more magic and fantasy like than the rest of the world, with the white walkers and the zombies and giants and stuff.

And Tyrion didn't just instantly try to kill Shae, she tried to kill him and he defended himself.

It raises the question of when die Shae actually turn on him. Was she ever really "with" Tyrion? Seems like she was for awhile, but who knows.
06-16-2014 , 01:01 AM
I enjoyed the episode as much as possible considering my two favorite characters died.

Stannis storyline now my most anticipated.
06-16-2014 , 01:03 AM
Loved the Children and I'm not surprised this thread is going to hate the fantasy nature they bring to the show.

It seems to be that the Children are not on the side of the WW. And who the hell is that old man in the tree? Finally the Bran storyline is getting somewhere interesting.

gut reaction is one of my favorite episodes ever. More happened here in an hour than happened in the 9 previous episodes. Maybe they should have spread some of this storyline payoff across the season?
06-16-2014 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
p.s i really hate this whole mods need to approve comments b4 they are posted thing, why not just moderate the forum & delete spoilers when/if some ahole post them?.
Because there have been posters who would make endless new accounts posting spoilers. A bunch of people seem to have been spoiled on the end of this season from him.

Basically a month ago this thread was completely unreadable/unusable because of a few little baby trolls on a power trip.
06-16-2014 , 01:06 AM
There really needs to be fresh blood injected in the show, in terms of characters.

Major, interesting characters are dying off much faster than they are being introduced. Heck, I mean look at this whole season, how many interesting or major characters were introduced? Oberyn, who died quickly, and maybe Tommen.

We're running out of important people.
06-16-2014 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^^ How did he know shae testified?, did they mention this prior cause i really missed that bit of information, even if it was mentioned & i didnt notice umm feel like they should've made a bigger deal out of it when he was told which i cant remember when that happened.
LOL he was there at the trial when she was called as a witness and testified against him. Which prompted him to call for the trial by combat. They made a pretty big deal out of it.


I'm super bummed that The Hound is most likely dead. He was one of my favorite characters this season. On the other hand, it led to Arya finally heading to Bravos which promises to be awesome.

So I don't get it, Shae was banging Tywin the whole time or only after Joffrey got murked?

I agree is looks like a lot of the action is moving towards Essos now, which should be interesting.
06-16-2014 , 01:09 AM
Tywin blew it. He could have tricker Tyrion. He knew the probability Jamie helped him was extremely high. All he had to due was tell him " Who do u think sent Jamie to save you "
06-16-2014 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Royale
1. Too long for what?
2. Even if Cersei was the formal boss of the trial (not sure if that was the case) Tywin would bitch slap her if she came up with an idea like that.
3. Tyrion expected to be able to pick Jaime from KL for his tbc at the Eyrie, pretty sure there's no such rule.
There's all sorts of explanations that could be used.

I mean, c'mon, we just watched an army of 100k barbarians give up after two minutes. That is a much bigger stretch than the proposal to have the TbC on location. I've found that writers usually can get away with most of what they try to. Regardless, it's a moot point now
06-16-2014 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
It raises the question of when die Shae actually turn on him. Was she ever really "with" Tyrion? Seems like she was for awhile, but who knows.
Remember during the Joff pre?-wedding that Cierce pointed her out to Tywin? Tywin probably bought her sometime right after that point when she started to feel like Tyrion didn't love her. She didn't realize that Tyrion still loved her and that she would have been dead already if it wasn't for him. She felt like she was a whore and Tywin could more than afford to buy her. It is a scorned lover story.

Very unlikely that it was a long con.
06-16-2014 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
There really needs to be fresh blood injected in the show, in terms of characters.

Major, interesting characters are dying off much faster than they are being introduced. Heck, I mean look at this whole season, how many interesting or major characters were introduced? Oberyn, who died quickly, and maybe Tommen.

We're running out of important people.
I've felt the opposite. The plots seem so drawn out because there are so many and none of them get that much time. Any one of the regions has enough material to be a show all by itself

However, I expect it to get bigger. Expanding complications appears to be a desired attribute by the writers
06-16-2014 , 01:21 AM
Is Tyrion Lannister gonna have to choke a bitch?

06-16-2014 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Team Joffrey
I mean, c'mon, we just watched an army of 100k barbarians give up after two minutes.
Do you realize how powerful a group of mounted, armed knights on horseback are? In the medieval era of Europe mounted armies were almost invincible until the development of the pike formation.

In our world, Stannis' army's attack from both flanks would have absolutely crushed and routed the unprepared and undisciplined free folk.
06-16-2014 , 01:28 AM
At least Stannis put a quick end to the wildlings. I don't think much of it, the wildling attack was just a disappointment and Stannis bailing them out was whatever. At least things might start happening on both the Wall and the Stannis front now.

But overall, man that was a great episode filled with exciting implications:

1. The Mountain is likely to recover and come back as a ****ing beast.

2. The fight between the Hound and Brienne was great. I love how there was no music or other distractions and all you could hear was the thuds from the blows.

3. Arya is turning into kind of a psycho, the scene of the Hound dying was great. As a viewer I felt like there was still some kind of bond between them, but she's a cold-hearted bitch. I've had a bit of a problem with this transformation but I'm coming around to it, at least if she's drops the holier-than-thou attitude and I feel like that's where we're heading.

4. I had been spoilered on Tyrion killing Tywin so I've been biting my tongue to avoid the what-will-happen-with-Tyrion discussions, but him being shipped off somewhere of course has exciting implications. I loved Tywin in his last scene, I thought it was great but knowing what would happen obviously took some away from it. RIP Tywin, top 3 character of the show.

5. And it seems Varys was behind Tyrion's escape, I'm a bit surprised by that because I couldn't see the incentives. I'll have to think about it but I'm pretty sure that it has exciting implications too.

6. Arya sailing to off to Braavos, exciting implications galore!

7. Finally I like the bad-ass chick and the old dude Bran met. It could turn out really terrible but my hopes are high.

At the end I'm just a bit pissed some of this stuff didn't happen earlier. ****ing EVERYTHING was held up for a cliffhanger in the last episode. Arya has been wandering around aimlessly for a season, the Wall has been one long wait for the Wildling attack, Stannis didn't do **** the entire season, Bran has been riding Hodor's back for the entire season, loldany etc. It seems the only event of significance this season was related to Joffrey's death.

8. Oh right, Dany and her dragons. Don't care.
06-16-2014 , 01:32 AM
#teamArya

Looks like Tywin really did want Tyrion dead....

And WTF @ Shae insta-attacking Tyrion on sight? I expected some GODDAMNED dialogue!!

Speaking of Shae, I stumbled (yes, really) onto some Shae porn - before she broke out into real acting. Damn.... that nose job of hers was probably the best decision of her career. Too bad for her future kids, though. They, too, will all need nose jobs.
06-16-2014 , 01:37 AM
Great end of season, imo. When does the next season start?

      
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