That idiot in the last thread spoiled me on Tyrion escaping via Jamie and Tywin dying but I didn't know Tyrion would do it. Loved it. Man we lost two great characters tonight. So many implications from here. Arya going to Braavos hell yes.

^same here, not sure if it was because it was spoiled but I liked it but didn't love it.

I think we can tell from the introduction of the children that theres gonna be a ****load more magic in GoT going forward.

I'm genuinely surprised Ayra didn't enter the Eyrie and get reunited with Sansa. Ayra still had family in the Eyrie- her cousin Robin. Where were she and the Hound heading? At least she's finally on her way to Bravos.

There was far more action north of the Wall than I expected. The situation there completely changed compared to last week.

Varys got on board the boat with Tyrion after he heard the ringing bells (which presumably was a signal that something bad had been discovered, Tywin's murder). I assume they're heading for the free city of Pentos. A lot of big characters are going to be in Essos next season.

I'm sure everybody is thrilled that Shae was brutally murdered.

Eh she got choked. No burning, flaying, arrow vagina penetration, eyes n skull exploding. She got away easy.

I'm glad it was Tyrion who got to kill her at least.

I got partially spoiled as well. Didn't know Tyrion survived or Tywin died this episode.

Overall, I was disappointed with episode? I am almost every finale (despite the action).

The Bran story line is my least favorite.

The highlight for me was Brianne vs the Hound. Good fight scene.

Locking up the Dragons made me sad (which is weird), but I guess they got the reaction they were going for.

I guess my biggest gripe is the Tyrion resolution seemed really rushed. Second, they didn't set Danery's up in an interesting way for next season. Third, The skeleton guys coming out of the ground seemed too Tim Burton for me. Fourth, no action from the Vale was a disappointment. I'm okay with how they left it off in episode 8 though.

I know they're bound by the book, but I can't help but think it could have been executed better.. I'd be interested to hear from all the people who hated last episode (which was awesome) and see what they think of this.

I liked that from top to bottom. Even the storylines I've hated (bran) have rekindled my interest.

Seems like some action is moving to essos now with some heavy hitters heading in that direction.

When the bells rang at kings landing, and Varys looked concerned what was that? Didn't they say bells only rang for an attack or for a wedding? Did the ring because someone discovers tywins body?

Also didn't Arya say that she was going to the wall and not to bravos? Just using a bravos vessel to get there?

I actually liked stannis this episode too.

As always when a season ends, I'm going to consider reading the books as waiting 10 months sounds awful. Idk.

Did anyone else think that guy was scamming khaleesi? She gives him 3x for goats what will she give for his daughter? Also a daughter would be considered more expendable in the horrible slave world they are in. Overall terrible decisions by her, she should be trying to ride the dragons not lock them up. What's the point of even having them then?

Dany has a definite need to start some dragon training. Until now, she's only brought them with her as pets.

She did use one on the slave master and it led to her biggest victory so far when she took over the unsullied. All the more reason to do some sort of training. Maybe bran will be the one to fully utilize them since the raven man said he would fly. It seems like we are heading into full blown magic mode from now on and that's cool with me as long as they don't tone down all the backstabbing and political maneuvering.

Bran flying does sound like he may be a dragon rider - though there seem to be many reasons why that shouldn't be the case.

I was so psyched when arya asked to go to the wall, have her reunited with jon. Then the coin came out, and going to bravos will be even better.

When brienne started winning, then hound reversed it and got on top of her, punched a few times, then grabbed her head i was sure he was gonna pop her head open. like brother like brother.

I'm glad Arya didn't kill Hound. Sucks for him to die slow and painful, but confirms that she changed her mind on him and that she was at the end a willing travel companion and considered him at least some sort of friend/mentor.

I really enjoyed it as well. Moved along lots of plots.

I assume that the bells toll for the murder of the Hand of the King. Varys heard them and knew it would be a big risk for him to stay, so decided to leave with Tyrion.

Arya asked to be taken to Bravos after he refused to take her to the wall. My recollection is that the coin is only good to get her to Bravos.

doubt anyone shed a tear for joey jojen junior shabadoo, and more 'mock trial with d stormborn' was just ughh at this point.

hope mountainstein turns out better than drogostein did.

good thing the mance army storyline was built up for so long, leading to them losing to a handful of crows one night then immediately surrendering the next day after 2 minutes of battle. get owned harder, free people.

That's the worst name I ever heard.

Some 2p2er told me a few days ago that he got spoiled for tonight's ep. I told him that if it was a big spoiler, then not to tell me. He says it's not big and proceeds to tell me that Tyrion kills Tywin.

FU man.

So great

Was it just me or does it seem like Dany was leaving the dragons to die? Up until the rock shut the door I thought she was just locking them up to keep them out of trouble, but I dont see the point in shutting the door if that was the case.

Overall it was a really great episode imo.

With Varys and Tyrion together (I'm assuming in Pentos), my first assumption is that Varys will implicate Littlefinger in Joffrey's murder. I don't know if Varys has any evidence, but it seems his view of Littlefinger would lead him in that direction- especially after he hears Littlefinger married Lysa Arryn a few days before she committed "suicide".

Tyrion may not love Sansa but he did marry her. I don't think he'll be content in letting his wife frolic with the same guy who murdered the King and left Tyrion to stand trial for it.

Stannis is in an interesting place. He now has a large army and possibly an allied army (Mance's) but nobody has a clue he's taken control of the Wall. He's in a position to march South and wipe out the Boltons. I could see a Stannis-Littlefinger alliance to control the North-Vale-Riverlands so that they can march on King's Landing.

With Tywin dead, Cersei is going to be the real power in King's Landing going forward. Tommen is too young to rule and whoever becomes the next Hand will surely be chosen by Cersei (Jamie?).

Cersei will name that former Maester hand? who else does she seem to like?

one thing - why was tyrion heading to tywin's chamber with like no weapon and no plan? seems like sick rungood for him there.

thought it was a great episode overall and really enjoyed it. fight scene with brienne and hound was excellent. i am a little skeptical of the whole fire throwing fairy nonsense and wary that the show is heading for like, trueblood season 6 territory, but eh.

if i have one criticism it's that basically every storyline outside KL feels like it could have been resolved in half the time. like, we didn't need four seasons for the whole mance -stannis - jon snow thing. i feel like it probably just took that long because of the uneven pacing relative to KL. same with arya going to bravos, that's been obvious since forever. i'm assuming this might just be one of the challenges of adaptation - you can't skimp on storylines for characters who will be important later because viewers lose track. but it definitely does feel like all the real, compelling, timely stuff happens in KL and everything else is interesting but could get done in half the time.

i think the character development around dany and her crew was actually pretty strong this season. much more interesting than season 3 even though there was more like, mortal danger and stuff then.

Loved this episode even though it started weak. From a dramatic perspective Stannis needed to come riding in during the battle last episode and it should have ended with something like his army wanting to run down the retreating Wildlings and Davos yelling "open the gate for the one true king of Westeros!!" and the episode ends panning away as Stannis' army engulfs Mance's army

Other than that weaksauce of Stannis showing his mug and Mance's 100k bending over, the episode ruled. I'm still picking Hound as a major player. I can't imagine he dies like this. I mean, if he was supposed to die, it's silly to not have Arya do it. So since she didn't do it, I think it means he lives.

I officially don't like Dany's storyline anymore. Her learning the realities of the world at this point just seems so backwards and boring. Compared to what Arya and Sansa have learned by now, Dany is a child

I love that Varys sat with Tyrion. I think that shows that he truly is on the up n up.

Can't say I saw Tyrion killing Tywin coming. In a way, it felt like Tywin needed to die to keep the plots rolling, but he was one of my favorites because he's so boss

I would say "**** Shae", but I think that gives too much attention to the worthless **** she was. I never wanted to believe that Tywin was an even more worthless ****. For some reason, I am not satisfied whatsoever by Tyrion killing them

I was surprised at how quickly and how well Arya was transitioned into the Valar Morghulis storyline. The writers got a ****load done in a brief amount of time from the beginning of the Hound/Brienne battle to Arya on the boat

I'm a little surprised people aren't loving the zombie battle more. That was a HUGE improvement over the s2 ending. The s2 zombies were terrible. They were lumbering bull****, just a bunch of scraggly lumps of flesh from early Hollywood depictions of post-apocalypse. But these guys, they were a magical undead army like in traditional fantasy. That scene was ****ing awesome

I am sooo confused


why did he kill shae, why did shae try and kill him?.

I am just like wtf at this whole episode.

Well that was certainly eventful.

Obviously Tywin's death was the biggest OMG moment. His death changes everything in King's Lnading. Obviously Cersei doesn't have to marry Loras now. I wonder if she'll also put a stop to Tommen and Margery's wedding. You gotta wonder where this will leave the Tyrell's in general.

Stannis is obviously gonna be a big player again, I still don't see what his next move will be.

Not sure where the Arya storyline goes from here. Was confused as to why she didn't want to go with Brienne and stay with the Hound. Also not sure how they ended up not going to the Eyrie, I mean the guards just let them walk away after he told them he had Arya Stark? Seems foolish of them.

The skeleton fight was sort of a curve ball, way more fantasy than we've seen so far. Not sure where that storyline is going either.

Loved to see Shae get choked the F out.

They seemed to imply that the Mountain will be coming back as some sort of Frankenstein Heman monster.

Gonna be a long 10 months.

Tyrion had two motivations to kill Shae.

1. Shae testified against Tyrion is his regicide trial.

2. Tyrion found Shae in Tywin's bed.